[boatbums]

Let me make it very clear for you: God is responsible for picking every single man that sat on the throne of Peter. the same God that pickled the worst Pope (Whoever you think it is this week) is the same God that guides the Catholic Church in all truth and has promised that the gates of Hell will not prevail against the Catholic Church.

I'm sure the drunkenness of some made them "pickled", but you can't blame God for that! ☺

Then your answer is that God failed the Roman Catholic Church by intentionally hand picking the DDDPs? I have a higher view of Him than you, apparently, because I tend to believe He would NEVER intend for men that failed HIS OWN QUALIFICATIONS for leaders within the church to be the HEAD of all the churches. Nope, depraved men were responsible for the depraved Popes sitting where they did. They allowed it because of their own greed and depravity. And they are ALL yours, the Reformers like the earliest believers would have never tolerated such!

[metmom]

Then your answer is that God failed the Roman Catholic Church by intentionally hand picking the DDDPs? I have a higher view of Him than you, apparently, because I tend to believe He would NEVER intend for men that failed HIS OWN QUALIFICATIONS for leaders within the church to be the HEAD of all the churches. Nope, depraved men were responsible for the depraved Popes sitting where they did. They allowed it because of their own greed and depravity. And they are ALL yours, the Reformers like the earliest believers would have never tolerated such!

And for standing up for righteousness and against the evil and depravity that infested the Catholic church, those who didn't want to hear it, ex-communicated Luther.

So much for the gates of hell not prevailing against the Catholic church.

Looks like they were prevailing just fine.

[verga]

God has a plan and that plan includes everyone and everything. I pity you that you can’t trust God.

[redleghunter]

Nope, depraved men were responsible for the depraved Popes sitting where they did.

Also amazing how the conclave was consistently 'led' to choose popes from the Medici family. 4 no less.