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To: PhilipFreneau; Boogieman
Regarding who does the destroying in Revelations 19, consider this:

Rev 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.
14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.” He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.

And then understand it from this Passage in Isaiah :

Iaiah 63: 1Who is this coming from Edom, from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson? Who is this, robed in splendor, striding forward in the greatness of his strength? “It is I, proclaiming victory, mighty to save.”
2 Why are your garments red, like those of one treading the winepress?
3“I have trodden the winepress alone; from the nations no one was with me. I trampled them in my anger and trod them down in my wrath; their blood spattered my garments, and I stained all my clothing.
4 It was for me the day of vengeance; the year for me to redeem had come.
5 I looked, but there was no one to help, I was appalled that no one gave support; so my own arm achieved salvation for me, and my own wrath sustained me.
6 I trampled the nations in my anger; in my wrath I made them drunk and poured their blood on the ground.”

Jesus tramples the peoples of the Earth by himself, on the earth!

38 posted on 03/14/2014 9:06:12 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: jimmyray
>>>Jesus tramples the peoples of the Earth by himself, on the earth!<<<

I have read many commentaries on Isaiah 63 in the past six months, or so; and I don't believe anyone really understands it; or if they do they most likely got lucky. LOL! I personally believe it refers to the destruction of Jerusalem and the first temple by the Chaldeans. If you read on, in context, until 64:10-11, it is written:

"Thy holy cities are a wilderness, Zion is a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation. Our holy and our beautiful house, where our fathers praised thee, is burned up with fire: and all our pleasant things are laid waste." (Isa 64:10-11 KJV)

While I can see, on the surface, possibilities of this referring to the destruction of Jerusalem and the second temple in 70 AD by the Roman Armies (along with other Israeli cities;) I just cannot imagine the children of Israel speaking of the second temple in the manner that is underlined!

In any case, I do recall the Lord using armies of various empires to carry out his judgements. If I understand correctly, he used the Assyrians to punish Egypt; Assyrians to punish the northern ten tribes; the Chaldeans to punish the Assyrians and Jerusalem; Cyrus and the Persians to punish the Chaldeans; and the Roman armies to punish Jerusalem and Israel.

Maybe a few of those are mixed up, but the imagery is the same: when Christ came in judgement he came in the form of invading or opposing armies. This is the way the Lord prophesied the future punishment of Jerusalem by the Roman armies (66-70 AD):

"The Lord shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young: And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee. And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the Lord thy God hath given thee." (Deu 28:49-52 KJV)

"And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city." (Mat 22:6-7 KJV)

"And when [Jesus] was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation." (Luke 19:41-44 KJV)

"And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh." (Luke 21:20 KJV)

Philip

51 posted on 03/15/2014 5:28:45 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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