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To: LurkingSince'98
Not Mary of Rome - instead Blessed Mary - Mother of God:

I see you are new here, but yes, it is indeed the Mary of Rome , since Scripture no where states or teaches on the holy blessed Mary such things as her being an exception (which noted exceptions is the practice of the Holy Spirit for notable characters) from being a sinner, or for her being a perpetually sinless virgin and having a sexless marriage (contrary to its description: Gn. 2:24; Mt. 19:4,5), who is ascended to Heaven, and who is already crowned (which happens after the resurrection) and enthroned as Queen of Heaven with almost unlimited power, including having the ability to process virtually unlimited prayer requests, (the Holy Spirit provides zero examples of prayer to anyone in Heaven but the Lord , or in its instructions on who to pray to), and who is even set forth by some notable Catholics as a more immediate and superior recourse for help than Christ Himself.

References to the Virgin Mary as being blessed in found in the Holy Bible.

Thanks for those wonderful texts, but which are irrelevant to the issue, which is not that Mary is blessed, which is to be affirmed, but that she is uniquely blessed due to her supreme holiness, which is simply not what Scripture teaches.

Many souls are blessed in Scripture, including Jael, "Blessed above women shall Jael the wife of Heber the Kenite be, blessed shall she be above women in the tent." (Judges 5:24) And as Mary was in being graced to be the vessel of the Incarnation of Christ, thru whom came the body God the Father, thru Christ, (Jn. 1:13) prepared. (Heb. 10:5)

And thus contrary to your statement, “ all generations shall call me BLESSED.” [Lk. 1:48] (all generations except for protestants), faithful Pros do call her blessed as Scripture states this (and read some classic evangelical commentaries such as Matthew Henry, etc.) , but to the egregious extremes Catholics indulge in, contrary to Scripture which warns against "thinking of men [or women] above that which is written." (1Cor. 4:6)

And it came to pass, as he spoke these things, a certain woman from the crowd, lifting up her voice, said to him: BLESSED is the womb that bore thee, and the paps that gave thee suck.” [Lk. 11:27]

But contrary to RCs which would have the Lord drop everything to give heed to the mother He (as part of the Godhead) created as a holy vessel of the Lord, His response was,

"But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it." (Luke 11:28)

For consistent with this, "Hail, full of grace" (Lk. 1:28) charitoō ="graced," is the same as Eph. 1:6, which all believers are graced to be in the Beloved.

To Catholics she is Blessed Mary, Mother of God - I personally don’t give a rat’s butt what you think about her or our Church.

She is far more than that to RCs (and is not ontologically the MoG as theotokos, the God bearer), which is the issue, while your attitude and language speaks volumes, contrary to pious faithful Mary. And which is often why allegations are made that Prots do not honor Mary, as they honor the one of Scripture, not the demigodess of Rome.

as I said all generations will call Mary Blessed - but yours.

Good Scripture, but additions to it bring a curse. "A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish." (Proverbs 19:9) May God grant you mercy and repentance.

Luke 1:38 [Behold the handmaid of the Lord: be it done to me according to thy word], Marvelous faith in such circumstances! - Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown

Luke 1:46-55 A magnificent canticle, in which the strain of Hannah’s ancient song, in like circumstances, is caught up, and just slightly modified and sublimed. Is it unnatural to suppose that the spirit of the blessed Virgin had been drawn beforehand into mysterious sympathy with the ideas and the tone of this hymn, so that when the life and fire of inspiration penetrated her whole soul it spontaneously swept the chorus of this song, enriching the Hymnal of the Church with that spirit-stirring canticle which has resounded ever since from its temple walls? In both songs, those holy women, filled with wonder to behold “the proud, the mighty, the rich,” passed by, and, in their persons the lowliest chosen to usher in the greatest events, sing of this as no capricious movement, but a great law of the kingdom of God, by which He delights to “put down the mighty from their seats and exalt them of low degree.” - Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown

Luke 1:47 My spirit hath rejoiced - Exulted. These words are uncommonly emphatical - they show that Mary’s whole soul was filled with the Divine influence, and wrapped up in God. - Adam Clarke's Commentary on the Bible

She was a virgin, a pure unspotted one ... She is dignified: “Thou art highly favoured. God, in his choice of thee to be the mother of the Messiah, has put an honour upon thee peculiar to thyself, above that of Eve, who was the mother of all living.” .. She has the presence of God with her: “The Lord is with thee,... She has the blessing of God upon her: “Blessed art thou among women; not only thou shalt be accounted so by men, but thou shalt be so.

she was troubled at the sight of him, and much more at his saying. Had she been a proud ambitious young woman, that aimed high, and flattered herself with the expectation of great things in the world, she would have been pleased at his saying, would have been puffed up with it, and (as we have reason to think she was a young woman of very good sense) would have had an answer ready,

But, of all the thoughts she had as to what manner of salutation it should be, I believe she had not the least idea of its being ever intended or used for a prayer..and to be ten times repeated for the Lord's prayer once; so it is in the church of Rome. But her thoughtfulness upon this occasion gives a very useful intimation to young people of her sex, when addresses are made to them, to consider and cast in their minds what manner of salutations they are, whence they come, and what their tendency is, that they may receive them accordingly, and may always stand on their guard. -Matthew Henry’s Commentary on the Whole Bible

124 posted on 03/08/2014 6:03:32 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

yeah right.

In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

Hail, Full of Grace, the Lord is with thee, Blessed art thou among women and Blessed is the Fruit of they Womb Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of god pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen

For the Greater Glory of God
Ad Marjoram Dei Gloriam


125 posted on 03/08/2014 6:12:51 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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