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To: NEMDF
Even with this “roundabout solution” you have proposed, there would be “Christian churches” which would allow homosexual weddings and let the homosexuals join the “Christian cake club”. It would be just one more opportunity for those promoting the gay agenda to get some press, showing how they are so persecuted by the rest of us.

No, the baker runs the club.

And the baker only allows churches in that conform to his or her Christian beliefs.

If those beliefs deny marriage to homosexuals, then no affiliated church will be a church that will marry homosexuals. Therefore, no homosexual will be a member in good standing of that church, and therefore they will not be allowed to be a member of the club.

You see, the baker isn't denying wedding cakes to homosexuals. He's providing wedding cakes to members of the club - and the members of the club have to also be member in good standing of an affiliated church.

So how is a member in good standing in a church that doesn't marry homosexuals going to want a wedding cake for a homosexual wedding? The very request would violate the beliefs of the associated church, and thereby identify them as not in good standing with that church - and that would be verified by the pastor or priest.

Look, the idea is not to stop homosexuals from buying wedding cakes. The idea is to prevent homosexuals from being able to force people to make them wedding cakes against their religious beliefs. The difference is gigantic.

10 posted on 02/27/2014 1:16:29 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Look, the idea is not to stop homosexuals from buying wedding cakes. The idea is to prevent homosexuals from being able to force people to make them wedding cakes against their religious beliefs. The difference is gigantic.


Making cakes is not against anyone’s religious beliefs. For example, I could make a cake out of seafood, with whipped cream and beef frosting. I could make such a cake. I just could not eat it myself because it wouldn’t be kosher.

Traditional religious people are stunned and sad that society has now accepted homosexuality as normal and also legitimized weddings for homosexual couples. It is a shock. People don’t like it and it isn’t something you can get used to, like painting a red building blue.

However, the Christian baker who makes cakes every day may have, just yesterday, sold a birthday cake to a man who cheats his business partner. This morning he may have sold a cupcake to a woman who poisoned her husband. He has sold every cake he’s made in the last 13 years to a sinner. Many of them unrepentant and sinning further. He’s sold to Jews, Muslims, atheists, and maybe a satanist* or two.

We can’t be choosing which sins stop us from business intercourse.

* so funny: above, I typed satanist on my ipad and apple corrected it to statist. Kinda the same thing! :)


25 posted on 02/27/2014 1:44:09 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Talisker
Look, the idea is not to stop homosexuals from buying wedding cakes. The idea is to prevent homosexuals from being able to force people to make them wedding cakes against their religious beliefs. The difference is gigantic.

I follow the baker's logic. It's CRYSTAL CLEAR. Huzzah for him! He has the guts to follow his faith in the face of sin...against all the P.C. there is. God bless him!

75 posted on 02/27/2014 8:27:41 PM PST by cloudmountain
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