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Jesus Would Not Support Modern Day Socialism
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| 2/14/14
| Chuck ness
Posted on 02/15/2014 8:05:22 AM PST by OneVike
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To: OneVike
Ok. Sounds good.
I do believe a lot of these guys mean well. As a means of helping people. I agree they are wrong 100%, but I do not believe they are demonic but ignorant. I could be wrong. I am not qualified to determine who is condemned and who is saved.
Interpretation of the scriptures is widespread and varied.
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posted on
02/15/2014 12:13:59 PM PST
by
Vaquero
(Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
To: albionin
A look at your posting history reveals that trolling with endless questions aimed at a passive argument, is your form of trolling.
Your primary issue seems to be Christianity.
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posted on
02/15/2014 12:18:33 PM PST
by
ansel12
(Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
To: Vaquero
You have it completely backwards.
The biggest single indicator of how someone votes is, are they Christian, or anti-Christian.
Evangelical Christians for instance are close to an 80% conservative vote, while the atheists are about 80% or more liberal voters.
As far as you, I didn’t say anything about how you vote, I said “”The VAST majority of people who feel like you, vote democrat.””.
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posted on
02/15/2014 12:22:56 PM PST
by
ansel12
(Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
To: ottbmare
How can you say that our will is not coerced when we have the threat of eternal, ETERNAL, torture thrust at us. Are you saying that that does not constitute physical coercion? I don’t want to put words in your mouth. Is that what you are contending?
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posted on
02/15/2014 12:25:12 PM PST
by
albionin
(A gawn fit's aye gettin..)
To: OneVike
That is just two different ways of saying the same exact thing. I think you just made my point. I think you just agreed with me but you are trying to hedge. I mean the government tells you the truth of what to expect if you don’t follow their plan. A mobster tells a store owner what to expect if he doesn’t follow the program.
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posted on
02/15/2014 12:31:12 PM PST
by
albionin
(A gawn fit's aye gettin..)
To: ansel12
Well I keep on asking questions because I never get direct answers. No my primary issue is with faith as an epistemology so I would necessarily have an issue with Christianity. But that is not what I am discussing now. I’d like to keep the discussion on the topic of the fundamental principles underlying Socialism and whether Jesus advocated them. I contend that he did.
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posted on
02/15/2014 12:47:20 PM PST
by
albionin
(A gawn fit's aye gettin..)
To: ansel12
“...people who feel like you, vote democrat.. Right. Are you a lawyer? It all depends what is, is.
I was born and raised and am proud of my Christian heritage. You do NOT KNOW HOW I FEEL. I was cautioning that there are so called Christian leaders (and powerful ones at that) who back socialism and amnesty, and caution is needed around these people.
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posted on
02/15/2014 12:49:03 PM PST
by
Vaquero
(Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
To: Fiji Hill
I just realized you wrote Judas, not Jesus.
Wow my bad, and I need to slow down when I read.
Sorry for my error. I would actually almost agree with you now that I realize who your were talking about.
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posted on
02/15/2014 1:02:07 PM PST
by
OneVike
(I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
To: Vaquero
Why are you pretending to quote me when you made up those words yourself?
That is twice that you have lied about what I posted.
Now what is the REAL quote?
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posted on
02/15/2014 1:08:47 PM PST
by
ansel12
(Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
To: albionin
Right, just as I described, it is your trolling method for over 3 years, you aren’t looking for answers, you are looking to argue without getting banned.
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posted on
02/15/2014 1:12:17 PM PST
by
ansel12
(Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
To: ansel12
My posting history has nothing to do with the question at hand. If what I have posted today on this thread is grounds for getting me banned then why don’t you do it. Until then could you answer the question for me. Does God use physical coercion? It is a yes or no answer. Then you can expand on your answer if you want. If you don’t want to answer that’s cool too.
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posted on
02/15/2014 1:43:55 PM PST
by
albionin
(A gawn fit's aye gettin..)
To: albionin
LOL.
Like I said, this is your form of trolling, years of the same passive form of attack with a never changing agenda.
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posted on
02/15/2014 1:48:55 PM PST
by
ansel12
(Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
To: ansel12
Ansel, I’m not attacking anything. How can you construe my question as an attack? If you’ll answer the question then we can move on to the subject of my posting history or anything else you would care to discuss. Or we can go our separate ways and be friends. Its all fine.
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posted on
02/15/2014 1:59:56 PM PST
by
albionin
(A gawn fit's aye gettin..)
To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
They have ultimate power over everyone. They aren’t elected. They rule by force.
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posted on
02/15/2014 2:01:59 PM PST
by
albionin
(A gawn fit's aye gettin..)
To: albionin; ansel12; Kirkwood; bramps; thecodont; oldtech; Harmless Teddy Bear; Rides_A_Red_Horse; ...
I must agree with ansel12. I checked your posting history, (
UFO earlier last year, yet you just cannot get yourself to believe that the promise of Salvation through Jesus is any different than a Socialist government forcing it's laws under the threat of punishment.
I will not waste my time any longer. I have those who are serious about learning's something that will not jump from thread to thread challenging every thing just to make your self sound intelligent.
If you want more answers on the Bible, do yourself a favor and check out these recorded shows of,
"To Every man An Answer".
You can go through their archive and find an answer to almost every question you have asked about Christianity since July 2011 when you first got into an argument with Christians over their stance that Ayn Rand wanted to eliminate Christians from participating in the political arena, because he thought Christianity was more evil than communism, and that is when you made a statement that you
have noticed a pattern to the criticism of Any Rand.
Not long after that you started asking the vary same questions you asked today, you have been asking for the last 3 years. Yet you don't like the answers, so you claim no one satisfactorily answered them. The problem is not the answers you are getting, the problem is with your dogged desire to make Christians look stupid and ignorant. So you come off like you are a genius because us ignorant Christians are too stupid to respond in a way to make you believe. Truth is you don't want to.
There is a lesson from Christ for people like you,
"And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet. Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!" (Matthew chapter 10:14-15)
Normally I do not end a conversation this way with those who claim to be curious and say they want to know, but with you, I am compelled to do as my Lord commands me to do. I am shaking off the dust from my proverbial sandals and saying, Good Day Sir.
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posted on
02/15/2014 2:28:07 PM PST
by
OneVike
(I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
To: albionin; ansel12; Kirkwood; bramps; thecodont; oldtech; Harmless Teddy Bear; Rides_A_Red_Horse; ...
I must agree with ansel12. I checked your posting history, (
UFO earlier last year, yet you just cannot get yourself to believe that the promise of Salvation through Jesus is any different than a Socialist government forcing it's laws under the threat of punishment.
I will not waste my time any longer. I have those who are serious about learning's something that will not jump from thread to thread challenging every thing just to make your self sound intelligent.
If you want more answers on the Bible, do yourself a favor and check out these recorded shows of,
"To Every man An Answer".
You can go through their archive and find an answer to almost every question you have asked about Christianity since July 2011 when you first got into an argument with Christians over their stance that Ayn Rand wanted to eliminate Christians from participating in the political arena, because he thought Christianity was more evil than communism, and that is when you made a statement that you
have noticed a pattern to the criticism of Any Rand.
Not long after that you started asking the vary same questions you asked today, you have been asking for the last 3 years. Yet you don't like the answers, so you claim no one satisfactorily answered them. The problem is not the answers you are getting, the problem is with your dogged desire to make Christians look stupid and ignorant. So you come off like you are a genius because us ignorant Christians are too stupid to respond in a way to make you believe. Truth is you don't want to.
There is a lesson from Christ for people like you,
"And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet. Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!" (Matthew chapter 10:14-15)
Normally I do not end a conversation this way with those who claim to be curious and say they want to know, but with you, I am compelled to do as my Lord commands me to do. I am shaking off the dust from my proverbial sandals and saying, Good Day Sir.
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posted on
02/15/2014 2:31:37 PM PST
by
OneVike
(I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
To: albionin; ansel12; Kirkwood; bramps; thecodont; oldtech; Harmless Teddy Bear; Rides_A_Red_Horse; ...
Ignore comment #95, and instead go with comment #96.
I messed #95 up but fixed it in #96.
Sorry.
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posted on
02/15/2014 2:32:59 PM PST
by
OneVike
(I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
To: OneVike
Yes I did post a thread almost exactly a year ago. It was a very exciting experience and I wanted to share it. I’ve wanted to see one my whole life and now I have. In fact I saw it along with others every day for eight days in a row. I tried to get video and digital photos but it is a surprisingly hard thing to do. I don’t know what that has to do with this discussion. If you don’t want to spend any more time that’s OK. Have a great weekend. Good premises.
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posted on
02/15/2014 2:44:04 PM PST
by
albionin
(A gawn fit's aye gettin..)
To: darkangel82
“If, like all errors,socialism contains a certain element of truth (and this the Sovereign Pontiffs have never denied), it is nevertheless founded upon a doctrine of human society peculiarly its own, which is opposed to true Christianity. Religious socialism, Christian socialism, are expressions implying a contradiction in terms. No one can be at the same time a sincere Catholic and a socialist properly so called.”
~~ Quadragesimo Anno, Encyclical Letter of Pope Pius XI
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posted on
02/15/2014 2:44:31 PM PST
by
miserare
(2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
To: OneVike
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posted on
02/15/2014 2:46:43 PM PST
by
GeronL
(Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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