POPE FRANCIS AND THE CHAPUT SHOCKER

Catholic Vote ^ | February 10, 2014 | THOMAS PETERS

[NYer]

Ping!

[Cicero]

Good news. I must admit that I’m still holding my breath, but this is a great appointment.

It still remains to be seen how all this will work out. Let us pray!

[Missouri gal]

While Chaput is fairly strong on theology, his political sense is extremely liberal. He recently expressed he idea that everyone has a right to health care and this is why he continues to support socialized medicine for the United States. Forgive me if I'm not cheering.

[Salvation]

Prayers for the people of Philadelphia Archdiocese.

[xone]

He used the word ‘papist’. Anti-Catholic bigotry or common usage?

[Salvation]

You may be wrong on the political sense. He was after the democrats at their Denver convention repeatedly. I think the democrats even refused to have him pray at their convention. It’s on FR — look it up.

He criticized the democrats up one side and down the other.

[rightthinkingwoman]

I would recommend to you his book, Render Unto Caesar.

[ottbmare]

Just a bit of self-deprecating humor.

[Mach9]

Neither healthcare nor social justice (nor economic policy nor general aesthetics) qualifies as faith or morals. If the theology’s strong, that already weights the scale. Healthcare has no weight at all (which may be why so many American bishops & cardinals) weigh in on it!

[Mrs. Don-o]

In this exact context, "papist" is neither anti-Catholic bigotry nor common usage. It's an ironic Catholic identity affirmation.

It's analogous to the way the Society of Friends wryly adopted the originally-contemptuous word "Quaker" --- or we proud Southrons will ironically call ourselves "rednecks."

Besides, Thomas Peters (CatholicVote) also has a blog called "American Papist." So he uses this term for himself--- and entre nous

[Mrs. Don-o]

I’m interested in exactly what he said. Do you have a link?

[xone]

Thanks for the info, around here it seems to get different reactions.

[NYer]

He used the word ‘papist’. Anti-Catholic bigotry or common usage?

He used in relationship to Rocco Palmo's blog. Palmo is a self professed authority on anything papal.

[Salvation]

Here are some
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?SX=52f97ca75917e9c1dc4aa5a6df1bfc5a53aae6aa;m=all;o=time;q=deep;s=chaput%20denver

[Salvation]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?SX=52f97cfa66f2bf7c6c89cff8f411ee0b25e08d51;m=all;o=time;q=deep;s=chaput%20democrat

[Mrs. Don-o]

Well, it depends who says it, and why. It would be like Jews ironically calling themselves “kikes” (for instance “Kikes on Bikes”) versus anybody else using the term. Or using the word “Yid”, which is usually either an attempt to accurately portray antisemitic speech, or self-deprecating Jewish humor.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Thanks, Salvation. Useful.

[xone]

Its ok for Catholics to call themselves papist and otherwise use the word freely. Just like blacks and the ‘N’ word then. Whitey WASPs beware. C’mon man!(in the sense of humanity of course)

[Arthur McGowan]

Tom Peters has long had a blog called “American Papist.”

He’s appropriated the term “Papist” the way the Jesuits appropriated the (derogatory) term “Jesuit.”