That fairly leaped out as being non sequitur, in that CB never claimed there was any "atonement" there. Only blood, in living form(?) within Adam, from the beginning. That is, if I'm understanding this conversation well enough.
As to "atonement" even in regards to blood atonement, is it not true that according to Mormon theology, Christ's own blood, shed in atonement for our sins, is said to be those blood-tears coming from Him, in the Garden of Gethsemane?
I ask, for there is seemingly abundant commentary, from over a span of many years, coming from high-ranking "Mormons", to that effect;
- Mormon Apostle Bruce McConkie, stated, "Where and under what circumstances was the atoning sacrifice of the Son of God made? Was it on the Cross of Calvary or in the Garden of Gethsemane? It is to the Cross of Christ that most Christians look when centering their attention upon the infinite and eternal atonement. And certainly the sacrifice of our Lord was completed when he was lifted up by men; also, that part of his life and suffering is more dramatic and, perhaps, more soul stirring. But in reality the pain and suffering, the triumph and grandeur, of the atonement took place primarily in Gethsemane," (Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, vol. 1, p. 774)
- "We honor His birth. But without His death that birth would have been but one more birth. It was the redemption which He worked out in the Garden of Gethsemane and upon the cross of Calvary which made His gift immortal, universal, and everlasting," (Gordon B. Hinckley, "A Season for Gratitude," Ensign, Dec. 1997, p. 4).
- "The Savior's atonement in the garden and on the cross is intimate as well as infinite," (Merrill J. Bateman, "The Power to Heal from Within," Ensign, May 1995, p. 14).
- "We don't know exactly how Jesus accomplished the Atonement. We only know that somehow during the course of the excruciating and agonizing hours in the Garden of Gethsemane and on the cross, he became our Redeemer," (Joseph Walker, "Singing the Song of Redeeming Love," Ensign, Mar. 1993, p. 58).
- "Because of the Atonement of Jesus Christ, all mankind, even as many as will, shall be redeemed. The Savior began shedding His blood for all mankind, not on the cross but in the Garden of Gethsemane. There He took upon Himself the weight of the sins of all who would ever live. Under that [page 6] heavy load, He bled at every pore," (Russell M. Nelson, "His Mission and Ministry," New Era, Dec. 1999, p. 4, 6).
- "The Savior's atonement in the garden and on the cross is intimate as well as infinite. Infinite in that it spans the eternities. Intimate in that the Savior felt each person's pains, sufferings, and sicknesses. Consequently, he knows how to carry our sorrows and relieve our burdens that we might be healed from within, made whole persons, and receive everlasting joy in his kingdom," (Merrill J. Bateman, "Healing Our Hearts," New Era, Apr. 1996, p. 49).
- "Our church believes that Christ's crucifixion was an important part of the atonement, but we believe that a more important part was when he suffered for our sins in the Garden of Gethsemane," ("Q&A: Questions and Answers," New Era, Sept. 1996, p. 18).
more at link --->http://carm.org/interesting-quotes-atonement-mormon-writings
You came in in the middle of a debate the question was originally “Was Adam flesh and blood prior to sinning?”
I said no there was no flesh and blood at that time Adam had flesh and bone.
Gen 2:23
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
The Garden of Eden is a different kingdom, or dimension from earth which is temporal where in order to live one needs blood.
it was endless denial that they are two different dimensions.
I know it is a waste of breath but I feel it is important for those who still have logic will know what I am talking about I don’t expect the Traditionalist to get it!
anyway my next request was
When you fine blood in Adam, when Adam was in the Garden of Eden show me?
This is the reply I got which makes sense for one living in a temporal state, but the Garden of Eden there is no need for blood and no atonements are made in that Kingdom.
Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
You noticed that too ey? Throughout this conversation, as in others on this forum, I have wondered if there is just a total lack of communication or if purposeful deflection is the case.