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To: PhilipFreneau
>>No, I am implying that your selective-literalism doesn't wash. Show me where these angels are Satan's angels:<<

Daniel 10: 13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

Daniel 10:20 Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.

>>There were these angels of Satan, but notice they were only allowed to hurt men, not the earth:<<

Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

>>I could have misread. It is a very complicated book, loaded with imagery.<<

Yep.

Revelation 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

If a third part of the grass and trees were already burned in the first trumpet judgment why do it again in the fifth? Different focus of the judgments.

683 posted on 02/06/2014 10:42:22 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
You:>>>Daniel 10: 13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

You: >>>Daniel 10:20 Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.<<<

What does that have to do with the passages in the Revelation that I quoted?

Me: >>>There were these angels of Satan, but notice they were only allowed to hurt men, not the earth:<<<

You:>>>>>Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees,till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.<<<<<

I am not believing you did that. This is what I posted for Rev 7:3:

"Show me where these angels are Satan's angels:" This is what I posted for Rev 9:11:

"There were these angels of Satan, but notice they were only allowed to hurt men, not the earth:" Look above and see how it ended up in your reply. You took the second header, and the first verse, and pretended that was my post. I am sure it was an unintentional, careless blunder. In any case, your comparison makes no sense.

You: >>>Revelation 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.<<<

You: >>>Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.<<<

You: >>>If a third part of the grass and trees were already burned in the first trumpet judgment why do it again in the fifth? Different focus of the judgments.<<<

LOL! This is what is written:

1) Rev 8:7 -- the first angel sounds, and all green grass is burned up. One of the four angels from Rev 7:3 was responsible for the destruction. There is no mention that angel was one of Satan's angels. It does not say how long it will take to burn up all the grass, but he also burns up a third part of the trees.

2) Rev 9:4 -- after the fifth angel sounds, there was still grass, and those released out of the bottomless pit were ordered not to hurt the grass, but "only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads."

Again, there is no mention whatsoever, that I have found, that Satan's angels had anything to do with the destruction, other than the destruction of men. Therefore, all destruction of the grass and trees, if it is literal and worldwide, as you seem to imply, is caused by angels of the Lord.

Philip

694 posted on 02/06/2014 11:44:16 AM PST by PhilipFreneau
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