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To: PhilipFreneau
>>Where is the beef?<<

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:

Who was he? And when was that seven your covenant confirmed? You haven’t accounted for the full 490 years.

“And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.” ─Zechariah 12:3

Your claim is that “that day” happened in 70AD. Which people that came against Israel were “cut in pieces? Isn’t Israel more a “burdensome stone” now than it was back then?

Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

At what time since Jesus ascended into heaven has all of Israel said “Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord” which He said would happen prior to his return? And if Israel is no longer a separate entity that God will deal with how can those words of Jesus be pertinent in your view of end times?

If the "resurrection" happened in 70 AD, why are the bodies of the apostles and Christians left in the grave?

Is that enough “beef” for you to chew on or do you need more?

646 posted on 02/06/2014 6:34:07 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
>>>Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:<<<

And he did: 3.5 years during his ministry, and 3.5 years, as the Holy Spirit, in his disciples.

"He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me." (Mat 10:40 KJV)

The Messiah arrived at the beginning of the 70th week:

"Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times." (Dan 9:25 KJV)

It says, "unto Messiah the Prince" shall be 69 weeks. Not 68, but 69. It took exactly 69 full weeks for Christ to arrive. Then he ministered for 3.5 years, or 1/2 week in the prophetic terms, beginning in the 70th week. Therefore, when he was crucified (cut off) it was mid-way through the 70th week. It is a simple word problem.

After Christ confirmed the covenant for 1/2 week (3.5 years,) by focusing exclusively on the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel, he was cut-off, which is Hebrew for destroyed, or cut-down. In this context, he was cut-off from confirming the covenant.

From the beginning of their ministry, the disciples were confirming the covenant. This is an example:

"Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities." (Acts 3:25-26 KJV)

Peter also confirmed the covenant with David in Acts 3. Stephen, in Acts 7 is another example of confirming the Covenant.

Covenant confirmation ceased about the time of the conversion of Cornelius the Gentile, when the tents of David were raised; that is, the promise to Abraham by the inclusion of the Gentiles (so that all nations would be blessed) was set in motion.

This is the key prophecy to end the confirmation of the old covenant, followed by some related prophecies. Recall that the tabernacle of David was a tent, not a temple:

"In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen [Gentiles,] which are called by my name, saith the Lord that doeth this." (Amos 9:11-12 KJV)

"And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious." (Isa 11:10 KJV)

"Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles." (Isa 42:1 KJV)

"And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth." (Isa 49:6 KJV)

This "bringing in the Gentiles" was prophesied also by Moses.

>>>“And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.” ─Zechariah 12:3<<<

>>>Your claim is that “that day” happened in 70AD. Which people that came against Israel were “cut in pieces? Isn’t Israel more a “burdensome stone” now than it was back then?<<<

No. Back then the leadership of Israel had the children of Israel in the severe bondage, as Christ mentioned in his first speech in the temple, quoting Isaiah 61:1-2. The leadership had also corrupted the minds of many away from the law of Moses into the apostasy of the traditions of the Rabbis. Recall this:

"And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition." (Mark 7:9 KJV)

Those that came against the children of Israel were of Israel: they were apostates. That is why Jesus is defined this way:

"Sanctify the Lord of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread. And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken." (Isa 8:13-15 KJV)

The burdensome stone was Jesus. That is why so many prophecies that were fulfilled by Christ surrounded the verse about the burdensome stone, Zech 12:3. Also recall that, later, Jesus sent the Roman Armies after those apostates.

Philip

662 posted on 02/06/2014 8:47:56 AM PST by PhilipFreneau
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