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To: PhilipFreneau; CynicalBear
Wow! You must have assumed that Cynical Bear was knowledgable on this subject. I don’t think any of the authors or the lecturer I quoted are preterist. I know for a fact that Ken Gentry doctrine is similar to mine: postmillennial. So is John Otis’ doctrine. Both are Reformed Presbyterian ministers.

That is hardly surprising - The orthodox Reformed are Partial-Preterist in their Eschatology.

Yahoo: John Otis Preterist

Yahoo: Ken Gentry Preterist

Just a quick glance at the subtext within either search will show a clear association with Preterism. Ergo, one is not amiss to assume.

LOL! As to CynicalBear, I think he would readily admit that he and I don't see eye to eye on many things. What he did though, was to provide links much like the links above - That your literature is within the Preterist camp isn't to be doubted. Whether that is because of the partial-preterist leanings of their denom, or that their post-millenialism is embraced by the Preterists is incidental, because the two are hand-in-hand, as I have mentioned before.

I gave Philip Mauro’s name because he was supposedly one of the better biblical researchers. The two books I have read by him are excellent: The Hope of Israel, and The Gospel of the Kingdom. He dispels a lot of the myths, such as the 1000 year earthly reign, and the third temple.

Yahoo: Phillip Mauro Preterist

Dwight Wilson is an Assembly’s of God minister and a dispensationalist who was fed up with all the discrediting false prophecies from those on his side of the fence.

Yahoo: Dwight Wilson Preterist

At the very least, simple searches show the Preterists using the literature you recommend as proofs in themselves. Barring an in depth study, or a treatise by the gentlemen in question denying Preterism (or partial-preterism), again one can assume inclusion within the Preterist sphere.

All I have read and know about these books and authors I have learned since last summer, when I finally came out of “spiritual seclusion,” for lack of a better analogy.

No need to explain - I too spent years intentionally focused upon the Book. I know that seclusion well. That is where I came to question the supercessionist, partial-preterist, ultra orthodox Calvinist religion of my yoot. If I see where you are, it is because I used to be there.

497 posted on 02/05/2014 12:02:50 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
>> As to CynicalBear, I think he would readily admit that he and I don't see eye to eye on many things.<<

ROFL! Say it ain’t so Roamer! Say it ain’t so.

499 posted on 02/05/2014 12:16:36 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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If it walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck…..


507 posted on 02/05/2014 12:32:48 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: roamer_1
It’s a duck!
508 posted on 02/05/2014 12:36:24 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: roamer_1

>>>That is hardly surprising - The orthodox Reformed are Partial-Preterist in their Eschatology.<<<

Partial Preterist? That is like being partly pregnant. It is a nonsenical term.

>>>That your literature is within the Preterist camp isn’t to be doubted.<<<

It is very much to be doubted. A serious researcher will not be blinded by the headlines, but will find out the actual positions of the individual(s) in question. One with the intent to smear, will ignore even hard evidence to the contrary. Which are you?

Now, if you insist on claiming that preterism, which by definition means “all prophecy was fulfilled upon the destruction of Jerusalem,” is the same as postmillennialism, which by definition means, “Christ will resurrect us in the future,” then please add a tagline that reads “partially-deceptive.”

>>>”Yahoo: Dwight Wilson Preterist At the very least, simple searches show the Preterists using the literature you recommend as proofs in themselves.”<<<

At least you are not batting “0”. One thing you may not realize is that many postmillennialists wear the “preterist” label as a badge of honor. They assume that anything a futurist disapproves of can only be a good thing. LOL!

But I am not one of them, because many Dispensationalist have been indoctrinated into “poisoning the well” with smears like “heresy” and other slanderous words, against anyone who opposes their non-biblical, “dual covenant” theology. And that is a fact that cannot be ignored.

Even Cynical Bear, the person you are defending, has already smeared me with the heretic label. That is why I have a universal definition for heretic: a heretic is anyone who labels me a heretic.
However, I also have more specific definitions, such as the denial of Christ.

>>>No need to explain - I too spent years intentionally focused upon the Book. I know that seclusion well. That is where I came to question the supercessionist, partial-preterist, ultra orthodox Calvinist religion of my yoot. If I see where you are, it is because I used to be there.<<<

Show me from the scriptures what you used to believe. I am very curious.

Philip


534 posted on 02/05/2014 2:07:55 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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