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To: CynicalBear
>>>Your theory contradicts Daniel’s prophecy.<<<

That is a general statement with no supporting scripture. Which prophecy does my "theory" contradict?

>>>Second, to think that the destruction of Jerusalem was somehow the tribulation flies in the face of History.<<<

Not at all. It is history. The great tribulation occurred during the seige of the city of Jerusalem, and lasted about forty and two months, beginning around 67 A.D. This was also exactly the time period in which Jesus said it would happen (Matt 24:34.) During the siege there was widespread starvation, and even cannibalism, fulfilling Moses' Deuteronomy 28 prophecy. Over 1.1 million were killed or starved to death during the siege. There was no one left to bury them, so the fowls of the air and wild beasts consumed them, as was also prophesied. These were the people, and sons of people. who killed the prophets, killed Christ, and killed many members of the early Church (New Jerusalem.) They paid dearly.

>>>Damascus is still inhabited.<<<

You are probably referring to this:

"The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid. The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the Lord of hosts." (Isa 17:1-3)

It did not say Damascus would be a permanent ruin, but would be like the "glory of the children of Israel," which had been permanently diminished by that time. Note the presence of Ephraim and the cities of Aroer. Neither has been around for a long time, nor is Ephraim listed as one of the tribes of Israel in the Revelation. Therefore, claims of a future fulfillment is puzzling, to be kind.

It is more likely that Isaiah was referring to events during the reign of king Ahaz, the father of Hezekiah. Isaiah said his vision occurred during their days:

"The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah." (Isa 1:1)

These are some of the events from 2 Kings 16:

"And the king of Assyria hearkened unto him: for the king of Assyria went up against Damascus, and took it, and carried the people of it captive to Kir, and slew Rezin. And king Ahaz went to Damascus to meet Tiglathpileser king of Assyria, and saw an altar that was at Damascus: and king Ahaz sent to Urijah the priest the fashion of the altar, and the pattern of it, according to all the workmanship thereof." (2 Kin 16:9-10)

You can read more about it in 2 Kings 16, and Isaiah 7 & 17.

>>>Satan has not been chained and he is still the ruler of this world.<<<

Satan was released from prison a while back, after being chained for a long time, and is now wrecking havoc on the morals of the world. Look at what has happened to our once great Christian nation in only about a century? Currently there is no Christian service in the White House during Christmas (but there is a Hanukkah service.) There was a time, not too many decades past, when even a left-winger like FDR felt obliged to lead our entire nation in prayer during a joint session of the Congress. Satan goes after souls.

>>>As prophesied Israel is once again a nation.<<<

Where can I find that prophecy?

As before, you have provided no supporting documentation for your claims. If you are going to make such claims, you should at least provide something other than your opinion.

Philip

153 posted on 01/31/2014 7:09:55 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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To: PhilipFreneau
>> Which prophecy does my "theory" contradict?<<

Seventy weeks were prophesied for the nation of Israel and the city of Jerusalem

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

After the command to build the temple there will be seven weeks and 62 weeks.

Daniel 9: 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

After 62 weeks the Messiah would be killed and the city destroyed.

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Notice it’s the people of the prince that will come and destroy the city. The prince is obviously Satan.

Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

We have just accounted for 69 of those 70 weeks and Christ has been crucified and the city of Jerusalem has been destroyed. There is still one week left allotted to the nation of Israel and the earthly city of Jerusalem.

Your contention that the destruction of temple in 70 AD was the tribulation and the resurrection cannot be true. It plainly states that all that happened at the end of the 69th week. There is still one week of years (seven years) left of that prophecy. Thus the re-gathering of the nation of Israel today.

The start of the seventieth week will be when he (the antichrist) will sign a peace treaty with the nation of Israel the temple will be rebuilt so that sacrifices can once again be offered but half way through the seven years will stop those sacrifices and set himself up in the temple and declare himself to be God.

Daniel 9: 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

So you see. Your theory contradicts Daniel’s prophecy.

>>Where can I find that prophecy?<<

Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Ezekiel 34:13 And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.

Ezekiel 38 is still coming. The seven years left of Daniel’s prophecy are the seven year tribulation of Revelation.

156 posted on 01/31/2014 8:38:51 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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