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To: Bulwyf
The trouble with your definition of prayer is that it’s not biblical. Praying for one who’s gone won’t have an affect, whatever has happened has already happened. We need to focus our efforts on praying for the living that they may be saved.

1. Catholics do believe that the Bible is a source of information, but not the only source of information. There are two others.
**There is Apostolic tradition. You can look that up on the website "Catholic Answers." Just a suggestion.
***Also the Pope can speak authoritatively "from the Chair" or ex cathedra on issues of faith AND morality: i.e.: abortion is a sin.
Ex cathedra: The term ex cathedra, meaning "from the throne", is used to designate official pronouncements of the pope intended for a world audience. As a throne or armchair symbolizes the power to teach, the cathedra in this case refers to the teaching authority over the whole church rather than to a chair. According to Catholic dogma, the pope's statements ex cathedra are infallible in matters of faith and morals. In Anglican episcopal governance, episcopal teaching is conditioned by synodical governance, and so bishops cannot be said to speak ex cathedra in this way (although they may jocularly be said to do so).

Also, I go the definition of prayer from Catholic Answers. It's what the Catholic Church tells us Catholics about prayer. We have ALWAYS prayed for our deceased. Always. I don't ever remember NOT praying for them. It has been so much a part of our tradition that I thought it was yet another part the Protestant faiths got from the Church. I am not saying that in a deprecating way, just in an informational way.

2. Also we are taught that praying for the deceased may be of help. Souls may not go immediately to heaven. Some need to be purged of their minor sins. To be purged they go to a place to be purged of those minor sins. Catholics call it "purgatory." Apparently your faith does NOT teach that either.

3. Focusing on the living is good too. This IS our chance to do good and be good.

82 posted on 01/28/2014 6:23:37 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

I don’t believe in purgatory and purging because that implies that Jesus is a liar. Jesus is not a liar. When he died on the cross for our sins and said it is done, he didn’t mean
partially. Purgatory would also mean Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross wasn’t enough. I believe his word and it’s the only thing I will trust. I guarantee you I’m not going to purgatory when I’m done here on earth. Jesus is the ONLY mediator between us and God 1 Timothy 2:5.


83 posted on 01/28/2014 6:30:08 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: cloudmountain
Catholics do believe that the Bible is a source of information

Well said, despite the official pronouncements to the contrary. I think some may forget this fact. I know that I do, as I vainly post scripture to no effect.

95 posted on 01/28/2014 8:46:00 AM PST by xone
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