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To: Heart-Rest
daniel1212', let me clear it up for you right now, and forever hopefully. What the Bible says in 1 John 5:16-17 is 100% true and right, whether you like it or not.

I don't think you are going to clear much of anything up...Of course the verses are true but I don't see you attempting to explain the verses...They certainly don't stand on their own as far as understanding...Unless of course you are Catholic and can just make up what you want to make up...

There is sin NOT unto death...And how do you guys arrive at what those sins are??? You make it up...

What you need to do is look at the very next verse (18) and contemplate THAT for a few months, or a couple of years...

1Jn 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not

260 posted on 01/28/2014 1:15:56 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool
"Of course the verses are true but I don't see you attempting to explain the verses"

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So, you agree that the statement "there is sin which is not mortal" is true (just like the Bible says), but you want me to explain what that means, in relation to statements made by other posters here who say that "every sin is mortal"?

Wouldn't you agree that something (like "non-mortal sins") cannot both "be" and "not be" at the same time, as that would clearly be a logical contradiction?

And wouldn't you agree that if the Bible is correct in saying there is sin which is not mortal, it would be incorrect to say that "all sin is mortal", as that would mean that there is no sin which is not mortal, and that would obviously be directly contradicting that truth proclaimed in the Bible in 1 John 5:17?

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Then you added this:

"What you need to do is look at the very next verse (18) and contemplate THAT for a few months, or a couple of years...1Jn 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not"

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Do you think that that text somehow falsifies the two texts that came before it?    Do you think verse 18 somehow makes the statement preceding it "there is sin which is not mortal" false?

The statement "there is sin which is not mortal" in 1 John 5:17 is either true or not true, and anyone who says "all sins are mortal" is saying the Bible is not being truthful in 1 John 5:17.    (Unless the person asserting it is Bill Clinton, who does not know what the meaning of the word "is" is.)

293 posted on 01/28/2014 9:59:21 PM PST by Heart-Rest (Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:7)
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