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Testimonies from ex-Roman Catholic Priests
CARM ^ | 1997 | Richard Bennet

Posted on 01/25/2014 11:26:41 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: BlueDragon

Well done sir!!!!!!!!!!! I agree wholeheartedly. If you don’t mind I would like to save that and may use it myself with attribution of course.


221 posted on 01/26/2014 2:14:54 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Luircin
I got a line for ya..

the Romans killed Jesus..who was a Jew and only a Jew. So thinking they got rid of another threat to their power, the Romans instead made Jesus, the Jew, more powerful in death.

So instead of embracing Judaism..the religion of Jesus, the Romans created a religion in his name that they could control.

To sweeten the control pie, they added their version of events in book form and even added "interpreters" to keep the sheep further in line. Tricky little killing machine boogers those Romans.

OK..so how many shots is that good for?

222 posted on 01/26/2014 2:21:04 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: editor-surveyor; Dutchboy88; narses; verga
We can all play the narses game, but where does it lead?

Do you have an abundant supply of childish graphics to post?

It’ll take a ton of them :o) -E-S

Here's a few of my responses to that foolishness! He has even used some in return (fractal)! Narses and Verga are the "you must be wrong, because you are not RC's" twins!


223 posted on 01/26/2014 2:23:02 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Today, doesn't it seem like we have a Corrupt Bastards Club in D.C.? On steroids?" -Sarah Palin)
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To: BlueDragon
On second thought, never mind, I'm not in the least interested in anything you would have to say concerning it, for I have heard enough from you and many others here, to be able to predict well enough what the answers would be like.... Do us both a favor though, if you would. Spare me the repetitious, Romanist boilerplate promotional pleadings and bleats. I have heard them all, already, thousands of times, and at some time or another, have thoroughly investigated each and every one of them.

No one is forcing you to either read anything I have written nor are they forcing you to reply.

by which I mean, hawk your wares elsewhere. Spare us also of the public announcement of how you'll be doing all this "praying" for me.

From James 5:16 The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

1 Timothy 2:1 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people,

1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

1 Thessalonians 5:25 Brothers, pray for us

And most important; Matthew 5:44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

224 posted on 01/26/2014 2:43:56 PM PST by verga (Poor spiritual health often leads to poor physical and mental health)
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To: WVKayaker
God must really get a kick out of protestants, since he made so many different varieties.

John 17:20-21 "My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

225 posted on 01/26/2014 2:51:26 PM PST by verga (Poor spiritual health often leads to poor physical and mental health)
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To: CynicalBear

Thank you for the encouragement.


226 posted on 01/26/2014 2:51:27 PM PST by BlueDragon (I saw what you did, and I know who you are! (elephants never forget))
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To: narses

They seem to get really upset when we offer to pray for them and quote the Bible to them. I thought they claimed to love the Bible and use it as their sole rule of faith...tsk...tsk.


227 posted on 01/26/2014 2:53:27 PM PST by verga (Poor spiritual health often leads to poor physical and mental health)
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To: Luircin
Now it's a single "Family" of Catholics? Another "wide" cross section. There are MANY "Catholics" that aren't even close to being "practicing" Catholics.

I always chuckle when some so called "Catholics" smugly state.... "I'm a pro choice Catholic"... lol Because someone is BORN and baptized Catholic doesn't mean they ARE Catholic.

Does anyone really think Nancy Pelosi is a practicing Catholic?

These polls mean absolutely nothing because a personal delusion or a designation at birth does not mean Catholic.

By the way, the Catholic Church and that means EVERY Catholic Church, over a three year period... EVERY three year period reads through the entire Bible at daily Mass.... How many protestant and /or Evangelical Churches do the same...

228 posted on 01/26/2014 3:02:32 PM PST by Bob Eimiller
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To: verga

:)

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My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.


229 posted on 01/26/2014 3:23:26 PM PST by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Bob Eimiller

1: I have NO idea what you’re talking about.

2: Every Protestant church I’ve attended in my life has read through the entire Bible in three years and sometimes less.


230 posted on 01/26/2014 3:44:05 PM PST by Luircin
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To: verga

Oh, I don’t get upset at the Bible. I just get upset at being condescended at.

If you’re trying to win converts to Christ, you sure as hell are doing a piss-poor job at it, especially since you’re in danger of drowning every time it rains because your nose is stuck so high in the air.


231 posted on 01/26/2014 3:46:41 PM PST by Luircin
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To: verga

The issue is Romish sumpremacy claims, made six ways from Sunday, continually bandied about on the pages of FreeRepublic, polluting the atmosphere, the very air we here breath with the relentless repetitions of the same, with some FRomans playing the "Protestants are stupid" card while others play the "I'll pray for you (to convert to Roman Catholicism)" card.

A great many are sickened by it all...
So whether you care to recognize it or not, I am rather forced to respond (at least from time-to-time) lest FR be turned into some extension of "catholicculture" web pages.

All the listings of prayer reference, since your own prayers for me arise within context that I surrender that which I already possess (given to me by the hand of God) in exchange for the privilege of my own unilateral submission to all which the theologians of Rome deem their own prerogative to proclaim is "truth" itself, are thus rendered moot -- for lack of righteousness as to cause, aim, and purpose.

Yourself and others may confuse submission to the bishop of Rome (and Roman Catholic theology -- what a big 'ol mess of a piled heap that is!) be fully equal to submission to God Himself --- but I do not make that same mistake.

As I stated, those claims (the particularly Romish flavored ones) I have previously gone to some lengths to investigate, and found to be not *quite* as advertised, time and again, concerning many issues. At other times, the theology itself makes the Gospel itself of little to no effect --- if it not be accessed only under the watchful eyes of some hireling priest, appointed by Rome.

I'll be having nothing much to do with those whose spiritual forebears burned Jan Huss at the stake, for his daring to openly oppose certain particular *developments* and attitudes within the Roman Catholic priesthood and theology as applied in his own day (and rightfully so, in many aspects -- though perhaps not in his own each and every sentence or paragraph), regardless of a recent apology from a previous bishop of the church of Rome.

It's all too little, and far, far TOO LATE, regardless if after these many centuries, a few of the complaints of Huss's time have been addressed (albeit reluctantly, with legalistic qualifiers and restrictions --as much as Rome can get away with, in any given set of circumstance --- leaving them as much "control" as anyone will cede to themselves on any issue on cares to mention, or even think about)

While on the other hand, the excesses and mistakes of the Roman Catholic Church (in past history, at the least) are all far and away, far too much.

As for righteousness (you bring scripture reference mentioning the prayers of a righteous man) itself, I claim none for myself, other than the blood of Jesus, to whom I need give my own accounting for.

Never in a million years would I agree or acquiesce to "Rome" concerning "itself" -- for I am far too convinced she tells blasphemous lies concerning "herself", doing as much violence to the Gospel itself which she can get away with, while simultaneously maintaining the masquerade that she is it's (the Gospel's) only true and proper font.

As I made previous mention of --- I have found the Lord (or He found me?) elsewhere.

He (God Almighty) is still fully capable of "moving" other than at the beck and call or command of some Romanist adherent or priest clown.

232 posted on 01/26/2014 3:49:05 PM PST by BlueDragon (I saw what you did, and I know who you are! (elephants never forget))
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To: verga

So is that a genuine prayer, or is that just a patronizing ‘bless your heart’?


233 posted on 01/26/2014 3:50:25 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Earthdweller

At least four or five. I’ll have to add a few more to the list for that, once I can see clearly again.


234 posted on 01/26/2014 3:55:07 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin
If you’re trying to win converts to Christ, you sure as hell are doing a piss-poor job at it, especially since you’re in danger of drowning every time it rains because your nose is stuck so high in the air.

I can't win an single convert, it is strictly up to the Holy Spirit. As for me being arrogant, I have nothing to be arrogant about. You must be projecting.

235 posted on 01/26/2014 4:05:31 PM PST by verga (Poor spiritual health often leads to poor physical and mental health)
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To: Luircin

Always genuine never patronizing.


236 posted on 01/26/2014 4:06:27 PM PST by verga (Poor spiritual health often leads to poor physical and mental health)
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To: BlueDragon

I am sure you remember your Shakespeare about protesting to much.


237 posted on 01/26/2014 4:07:19 PM PST by verga (Poor spiritual health often leads to poor physical and mental health)
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To: verga
Really? Too much? After how many freepers now, whom you have offered to "pray for" on these pages in the recent past (since if they are not [Roman] Catholic, they must be wrong, wrong wrong, while of course, since you are RC, that automatically makes you "right" being in the "right" club and all) --- then when I call that out --- it's "too much" of a protest?

Really? phhhffft. A bronx cheer in your direction.

Is that succinct enough? What if it were only a bronx cheer protest, and nothing else? What then? would it be as --- "look! yet another "protestant" (whatever the heck those are) "...who is incapable of expressing himself!" "yup, it's like the rest of the club members have been saying...Cafo-licks or smart --- everyone else, dumb" "listen to that bronx cheer. it's all the dummy can summon up to say" etc.

A more real problem perhaps, is that I have not "protested" strenuously enough!

238 posted on 01/26/2014 4:19:10 PM PST by BlueDragon (I saw what you did, and I know who you are! (elephants never forget))
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To: BlueDragon

I guess the only questions I have to ask is why are you still reading and replying if it bothers you so much?


239 posted on 01/26/2014 4:38:14 PM PST by verga (Poor spiritual health often leads to poor physical and mental health)
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To: verga

You asked — and I answered. Gotta’ problem with that, wise-guy?


240 posted on 01/26/2014 4:57:58 PM PST by BlueDragon (I saw what you did, and I know who you are! (elephants never forget))
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