Posted on 01/23/2014 9:29:40 PM PST by NKP_Vet
1. Best One-Sentence Summary: I am convinced that the Catholic Church conforms much more closely to all of the biblical data, offers the only coherent view of the history of Christianity (i.e., Christian, apostolic Tradition), and possesses the most profound and sublime Christian morality, spirituality, social ethic, and philosophy.
2. Alternate: I am a Catholic because I sincerely believe, by virtue of much cumulative evidence, that Catholicism is true, and that the Catholic Church is the visible Church divinely-established by our Lord Jesus, against which the gates of hell cannot and will not prevail (Mt 16:18), thereby possessing an authority to which I feel bound in Christian duty to submit.
3. 2nd Alternate: I left Protestantism because it was seriously deficient in its interpretation of the Bible (e.g., "faith alone" and many other "Catholic" doctrines - see evidences below), inconsistently selective in its espousal of various Catholic Traditions (e.g., the Canon of the Bible), inadequate in its ecclesiology, lacking a sensible view of Christian history (e.g., "Scripture alone"), compromised morally (e.g., contraception, divorce), and unbiblically schismatic, anarchical, and relativistic. I don't therefore believe that Protestantism is all bad (not by a long shot), but these are some of the major deficiencies I eventually saw as fatal to the "theory" of Protestantism, over against Catholicism. All Catholics must regard baptized, Nicene, Chalcedonian Protestants as Christians.
4. Catholicism isn't formally divided and sectarian (Jn 17:20-23; Rom 16:17; 1 Cor 1:10-13).
5. Catholic unity makes Christianity and Jesus more believable to the world (Jn 17:23).
6. Catholicism, because of its unified, complete, fully supernatural Christian vision, mitigates against secularization and humanism.
7. Catholicism avoids an unbiblical individualism which undermines Christian community (e.g., 1 Cor 12:25-26).
8. Catholicism avoids theological relativism, by means of dogmatic certainty and the centrality of the papacy.
(Excerpt) Read more at ourcatholicfaith.org ...
Maybe I should not be trying to confuse you with the facts?
>>>Furthermore this is not in the bible as such - you might think about Babylon being an economic/an earthly system. as it was for you to think along other lines because you are WAY off saying Israel/Jerusalem is Babylon. Pray for Jerusalem, don't condemn her with your words. That's Christianity too.<<<
Jerusalem was Babylon the Great. Otherwise, Christ has to send a whole new batch of prophets and apostles for the "modern" Babylon the Great to kill. Is that what you want?
Please read the following very, very carefully before you throw any more of your nasty, unchristian-like judgements at me:
This is the blood on Babylon the Greats hands.
"And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration." (Rev 17:6, Babylon)
"And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth." (Rev 18:24, Babylon)
Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. (Rev 18:20, Babylon)
This was the blood on Jerusalems hands:
"Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!" (Luk 13:33-34, Jerusalem)
". . . I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute: That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation." (Luke 11:49-51, Jerusalem)
Notice any similarities? There is only one explanation for the striking similarities: Jerusalem was Babylon the Great.
>>>"I take it as you are not Christian but just 'studying' whatever you may. There's a saying...speak the truth and shame the devil....it cleans the air.<<<
Your limited ability to prove from the Bible, what you claim is in the Bible, leads me to believe you are Christian in name only. You certainly are quick to judge someone who doesn't possess your brand of indoctrination.
Philip
Not to be rude but I didn’t read your post. I have no interest in anyone who thinks Jerusalem is Babylon - they are far too off track for anyone to bring back. And my time is most precious.
>>>Not to be rude but I didnt read your post. I have no interest in anyone who thinks Jerusalem is Babylon - they are far too off track for anyone to bring back. And my time is most precious.<<<
You are rude, and a know-it-all. And your time is not worth a hill of beans in the scheme of things.
Philip
Those aren't serious questions. They're just snarky, smartass jibes. You have ably demonstrated the sort of "love" your stunted version of the gospel produces.
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