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To: restornu

Do not be deceived! Here are three verses that declare and identify the triune nature of God. First, God refers to himself as plural. Second, Jesus refers to himself and his father as plural. Third, Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as another advocate in addition to himself.

Genesis 1:26 NIV

Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.

John 14:23 NIV

Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.”

John 14:16-17 NIV

And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.


44 posted on 01/12/2014 9:01:49 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Do not be deceived! Here are three verses that declare and identify the triune nature of God. First, God refers to himself as plural. Second, Jesus refers to himself and his father as plural. Third, Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as another advocate in addition to himself.

Let's look at actual bible verses that show the Godhead in heaven:

Dan 7:13 "I was watching in the night visions, And behold, One like the Son of Man, Coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, And they brought Him near before Him.
Dan 7:14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion, Which shall not pass away, And His kingdom the one Which shall not be destroyed.

Two, ancient of days, son of man. No such person called holy spirit there in heaven.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.

God and the Word. Two. No person called the holy spirit in the Godhead with them. The two ARE God.

Rev_22:1 And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Rev_22:3 And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him.

Who have thrones? Two. God and the Lamb. There is no throne, ever, for a person called the holy spirit.

Rev 7:9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,
Rev_7:10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!"

Who does this vast multitude of saved people credit for their salvation? God and the lamb. Two. They do not credit a person called the holy spirit up there. Why do you suppose that is?

How about Jesus...what did he think?

Joh_10:30 I and My Father are one."

Oops! What happened here? Jesus Christ did not include a person called the holy spirit as being "one" of God. He only included the two of them.

Heb_8:1 Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens,

Wait....where is the person called the holy spirit up there with God and his high priest. Again, only two of them.

Verse after verse after verse shows that there are two that make up the Godhead.

I am amazed that people just don't believe what they read and instead will embrace an idea that didn't become part of the official church teaching until nearly 400 years after Jesus died.

How do you explain this?

46 posted on 01/12/2014 9:14:39 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I love John 14 if one takes the time to follow the conversation we learn about the Father in Heaven, His only begotten Son Jesus and the 1st comforter and 2nd comforter.

Earlier in the scripture Jesus talks about the 1st comforter the Holy ghost which is from the Father that dwells in him, John 14:9-18 and later in the scriptures John 14:23-31 he talks about the 2nd comforter which the Father will send after Jesus leaves.

1- John 14:9-18

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

15 ¶If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. ***

2- John 14:23-31

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.

30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

There is so much understanding of the Godhead to be gleam from these scriptures for those who humbly desire truth.

52 posted on 01/12/2014 9:31:18 PM PST by restornu (These things I command you, that ye love one another. John 15:17)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Don’t forget for those who deny the deity of Jesus Christ:

Colossians 2:6-11 NASB

Therefore as you have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him, having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith, just as you were instructed, and overflowing with gratitude. See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority; and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ;


152 posted on 01/13/2014 5:08:44 PM PST by redleghunter
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