Posted on 01/12/2014 7:49:32 PM PST by restornu
restornu FULLY agrees with the above.
I believe you are sincere...
But I receives a witness by the Power of the Holy Ghost that this is the Church of Jesus Christ,
Even before I was a member or met a Missionary.
I was on an 18 year quest for truth and the last place I would look was to the Mormons, how little did I know...
There's manmade and then there is plagiarism!
You should have finished it. It was a gas!
All Mormons must believe that.
As well they MUST believe in men having many wives or they will be kicked out of the LDS org.
Or so their official writings say.
But WAIT!!!
There's MORE!
LOL Well, there you have it. Documented for us with incontrovertible ..wait ..what?
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ALL: Do you see how Mormon apologists try to claim that Paul's prophetic words spoken in Gal. 1 apply to the lst thru 18th centuries...but suddenly somehow stopped in the 1820s?
By this same logical extension then, Restornu: Since The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints did not exist when the Mormons claim that Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph Smith, then whatever words the Mormons claim were spoken to Smith...as found in the Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith History, don't apply anymore, either!!!
The words Paul rec'd -- and the words Joseph Smith initially rec'd -- were ALL rec'd pre-jumpstart of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints...hence the flaw in Restornu's "natural mind" applies to her claims of the Mormon Church's First Vision as well!!!
Not moved along much it seems.
It's MUCH worse than that!!
"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;
and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,
and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.
Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)
Unless you blink and the Mormon god decides something else...
The Doctrine and Covenants
Section 49:16
Wherefore, it is lawful that he should have one wife, and they twain shall be one flesh, and all this that the earth might answer the end of its creation; 17 And that it might be filled with the measure of man, according to his acreation bbefore the world was made.
Sola Scriptura is becoming more entrenched in my belief every day.
I can assure you without reservation that the spirit you listened to was NOT the Holy Spirit.
Where is this preserved Hebrew NT?
And you blame FR Religion Forum's for this?
The Mormon Church has been bashing worldwide Christianity since it came on the scene! (For those who want "proof"...see my next post)
Restornu, the Mormon Church accuses EVERY non-Mormon on the FR Religion Forum as being either being of an apostate church or having some ancestor who ventured off into apostasy!
And you somehow think that people are just going to stand idle while the Mormon Church makes these kind of generation-after-generation-after-generation-after-generation-after-generation accusations!
It wouldn't matter if the ONLY FR Religion Posters were resurrected Founding Fathers of this nation...Your church would STILL accuse them of being apostates!
Now, tell us, Restornu: How "civil" is that?
ALL: I said to Restornu, in part, on my last post:
And you blame FR Religion Forum's for this?
The Mormon Church has been bashing worldwide Christianity since it came on the scene!
Here's proof:
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...The Mormon church has made sure that over these past 62 years its missionaries emphasize a so-called "UNIVERSAL" (complete) apostasy by the Christian church shortly after the apostles died.
Since 1952, the Lds church has sent out about a million missionaries...[Lds has boasted of over a million in its entire history; the largest swath have come in the last 60 years]. They work 70-hour weeks. That's a LOT of "apostasy" mongering...especially given the 80,000 Lds missionaries out & about daily.
And that doesn't include their 24/7 online accusations...
...their books published in who knows how many languages...
...their curricula...
...their published articles...
...their broadcasts...
Somebody who doesn't realize all of this strikes me as a little "green" when it comes to assessing what this multi-$billion organization has been doing...and to express worriment about the potential for some small "religion forum" on ONE Web site might actually stand up to this meta-narrative accuser of Christians & Christian churches the world over is really quite non-sensical and illogical.
Snapshot of Joseph Smiths Slanderous Invectives vs. Christian Sects |
Mormon Source[Note: Most of these are Mormon scriptures'. In fact, First three rows below are Lds 'scripture' & therefore cannot be rug-swept any more than a Jew might try to take three commandments off of the very tablets of stone Moses brought down from the mountain] |
...which of all the sects was right must join NONE of them, for they were ALL WRONG those professors were ALL CORRUPT | Joseph Smith History vv. 18-19. Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price |
...which of all the sects was right ALL their CREEDS were an ABOMINATION in his sight they teach for doctrines the commandments of MEN | Joseph Smith History vv. 18-19. Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price |
Mormon church the only Christ-sanctioned church on earth: the foundation of this [Mormon] church the ONLY true and living church on the face of the whole earth [Obvious scorched earth implication: All other churches are false and dead] | Lds scripture Doctrines & Covenants 1:30 |
Direct question asked of Joseph Smith: 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons?" Answer from Lds "prophet" Joseph Smith: 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." | Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119 [Not scripture but still publicly spoken by the Mormon living prophet and published by a later Mormon living prophet, Joseph Fielding Smith via a publisher owned by the Mormon church Deseret News Press, 1938] |
In 1952 the first official proselyting plan was sent to missionaries throughout the world It included seven missionary discussions that emphasized [four topics, one of them being] THE APOSTASY and Restoration [This makes it 60 years that Mormon church missionaries, soon to number 85,000, have formally emphasized in its training & door to door saturation a priority in bashing the worldwide Christian church as apostates (100% AWOL)] | Our Heritage: A Brief History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints p. 116, 1996 |
Yet, which bashers assumed the now 24/7 initiative to claim about worldwide Christianity that...
...all Protestant, Catholic & Orthodox churches are all "apostate?"
...all Protestant, Catholic & Orthodox churches are allegedly not part of the "only true & living church on the face of the earth" (D&C 1:30) -- thereby labeling them as false and dead?
...all Protestant, Catholic & Orthodox creeds -- 100% of them -- are an "abomination" to the Mormon gods?
...the gift of indwelling Holy Spirit is to be found NOWHERE outside of Mormonism?
...no missionary work outside of Mormonism is recognized as divinely authorized?
...no baptism outside of Mormonism is recognized as divinely authorized?
...no communion outside of Mormonism is recognized as divinely authorized?
...no spiritual gifts outside of Mormonism is recognized as divinely given?
...although the apostle Paul wrote about prophetic gifts to the Corinthians (which is distinct from any official "OFFICE" of prophet as we find in the Old Testament), Mormonism claims no one but their top echelon speaks prophetically any more as guided by the Holy Spirit? [Ironically, many Mormon apologists and writers have attempted to belittle Christianity for saying God doesn't reveal revelations any more; yet, these very advocates of Mormonism have "bottled up" God from speaking to anyone beyond a few who happen to live in Salt Lake City!]
Answer to each of these questions? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons) YOUR faith, Restornu, is it not? (Then start taking responsibility for what your tithe pays for!)
Why does your Mormon faith bash us 24/7 as the heirs of "the Great Apostasy?"
Why does your faith bash us 24/7, claiming we in the Christian church have...
...zero priesthood authority?
...zero authoritative, prophetic revelation
...our spiritual forefathers corrupted the scriptures beyond internal restoration or reformation?
Why does your faith bash 100% of our professing believers as being "corrupt" -- corrupt in both our theology as well as our individual & collective morality? (Joseph Smith History, vv. 18-20, Pearl of Great Price)
Another Hebrew roots adherent?
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