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To: MNDude; knarf; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; redleghunter; ...
It seems like a little game that a lot feel they can play with the almighty by having a deathbed conversion. I’ll leave it to God who’s forgiven and who’s not, but you are bordering on preaching cheap grace if you are out saying you can outsmart God and his system.

Which is why i added my comment. But while RCs (if not you) are prone to charge sola fide with preaching a cheap grace, "easy believism" is what Rome most examples, as her faith as manifest by her works, is that even notorious liberal RCs are to be treated as members in life and in death.

Moreover, rather than the easy believism Rome associates with sola fide, in Puritan Protestantism there was often a tendency to make the way to the cross too narrow, perhaps in reaction against the Antinomian controversy as described in an account (http://www.the-highway.com/Early_American_Bauckham.html) of Puritans during the early American period that notes, “

They had, like most preachers of the Gospel, a certain difficulty in determining what we might call the ‘conversion level’, the level of difficulty above which the preacher may be said to be erecting barriers to the Gospel and below which he may be said to be encouraging men to enter too easily into a mere delusion of salvation. Contemporary critics, however, agree that the New England pastors set the level high. Nathaniel Ward, who was step-son to Richard Rogers and a distinguished Puritan preacher himself, is recorded as responding to Thomas Hooker’s sermons on preparation for receiving Christ in conversion with, ‘Mr. Hooker, you make as good Christians before men are in Christ as ever they are after’, and wishing, ‘Would I were but as good a Christian now as you make men while they are preparing for Christ.’”

More: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Reformation_faith_works.html

37 posted on 01/12/2014 7:49:17 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

“It seems like a little game that a lot feel they can play with the almighty by having a deathbed conversion. I’ll leave it to God who’s forgiven and who’s not, but you are bordering on preaching cheap grace if you are out saying you can outsmart God and his system. “

I’ll answer your question. You can never outsmart god as He knows your thoughts and motives. Jesus addresses this many times in the scriptures. For example, the Prodigal Son. Was it better to do the wrong thing and repent than to never cleanse your soul.

Remember Jesus said several times that He came here to save, not to judge.

I help ghosts that are stuck here due to their sin by redeeming them and helping them in crossing over to heaven. I’ve been doing it for over 20 years with compassion and Love. I have no doubt that there is no unpardonable sin, no matter how severe. But, it must be redeemed in a way that cleanses the soul and heals the wound. This is why conditional forgiveness is not forgiveness. Remember Jesus’ important words after He healed someone... “Go and sin no more.”

Remember what Jesus said when He healed the 10 lepers. One man stopped and praised God and Jesus said, “That man has been made whole.” The reality is that the other 9 most likely had their leprosy return.

God seems to pick His biggest screw ups for His most important work.... Moses, Paul and Peter are all examples of this.


83 posted on 01/12/2014 10:50:47 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: daniel1212; MNDude; knarf; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; ...
But while RCs (if not you) are prone to charge sola fide with preaching a cheap grace, "easy believism" is what Rome most examples, as her faith as manifest by her works, is that even notorious liberal RCs are to be treated as members in life and in death.

The argument about "cheap grace" makes sense only to those who think they will work their way to salvation.

Grace is a gift from God.

You can not buy a gift from someone. They either give it or they don't.

140 posted on 01/12/2014 1:23:41 PM PST by wmfights
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