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To: cuban leaf

I don’t have a problem with God taking lives - the closing of the Red Sea, the death of the first-born of Egypt - but for Him to make his people kill children, babies, the unborn in their mothers?

I had a dream where the Angel of Death reached into me and lifted out my unborn baby (did not come to pass with that baby) and the Angel was impersonal, only doing the job he had been sent to do and no pain, no harm came to the dream baby - she went from my womb to heaven. So the Angel of Death and the first born I can accept.

But Ameleks hardened in sin? What was their eternal fate? If baby Ameleks were slaughtered did they go to heaven since their whole tribe was so evil it must be wiped out? A little two year old Amalek seeing his whole family bleeding on the floor before he was dashed against the wall?

What of virgin girls of other tribes given a few weeks to mourn their slain families before they became concubines. We hate the Muslims for that.

God fed the Israelites 40 years in the desert. Why didn’t He turn the desert into a land of milk and honey, instead of sending the Israeites into the lands of others?

Again, God can take my life any time He wants - it is His to take. But to send someone to destroy me? That wrongs the one sent.


78 posted on 01/09/2014 11:46:53 AM PST by heartwood
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To: heartwood

I don’t have a problem with God taking lives - the closing of the Red Sea, the death of the first-born of Egypt - but for Him to make his people kill children, babies, the unborn in their mothers?


I have no problem with any of it, assuming God told me to do it. Thing is, I compare this life to eternity as comparing life in the womb to life outside the womb. An even better analogy is this life as a video game. I play by the rules, knowing that the “game” will come to an end and I will be in the “real” world outside of this life.

And the movie “The Matrix” is a very good analogy as well. Christians took the Red Pill and see this world for what it is. We are still not to murder, but if God instructs us to, so be it. The context and perception of the Matrix makes it alright.

One of the overpowering messages of the New Testament is that this life on this world is infinitely brief and insignificant compared to eternity. What happens to the body is almost utterly irrelevant. Of course, it doesn’t mean I go around disemboweling pregnant women, but God’s wisdom is such that, for generations to come, it is a righteous path when he instructs it. Some Jews just might wish someone had done that to Hitler’s mother.


80 posted on 01/09/2014 12:10:33 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: heartwood

Again, God can take my life any time He wants - it is His to take. But to send someone to destroy me? That wrongs the one sent.


Not if God told them to do it.


81 posted on 01/09/2014 12:11:00 PM PST by cuban leaf
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