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To: aMorePerfectUnion
“Messianic Jew” is an oxymoron

Not to a Messianic Jew.

So? "Compassionate liberal" isn't an oxymoron to a "compassionate liberal" either.

Can't you dear but infuriating people ever get it through your heads that the Jews were given their religion at Sinai, that they were charged by G-d to never change it or deviate from it, and that your belief that the Torah was a mere "preparation" for a future higher revelation is an alien notion imported from outside?

You cannot "prove" the "new testament's" interpretation of the Hebrew Bible by quoting the "new testament" any more than you can prove the claims of mormonism by quoting the "book of mormon." What about this is so hard for you to understand???

The "new testament" cannot authorize itself. Neither can it simply "declare" itself authorized by the Hebrew Bible and then "prove" it by its own interpretation of the Hebrew Bible. The Torah would have had to explicitly declare itself to be temporary and preparatory from day one for chrstianity to even be possible, and this is most assuredly not what happened.

I absolutely marvel at chrstian's immunity to this simple self-evident, logical truth.

100 posted on 01/09/2014 11:51:12 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I will take time to respond:

“Can’t you dear but infuriating people ever get it through your heads that the Jews were given their religion at Sinai, that they were charged by G-d to never change it or deviate from it, and that your belief that the Torah was a mere “preparation” for a future higher revelation is an alien notion imported from outside?”

Actually, you have misrepresented the viewpoint and belief of Christians.

Why would it be infuriating to you. Why would you even care, if you are firm in your convictions? Let it go. Instead of Don’t Happy, Be Worry, get back to the correct order. This is simply a discussion thread. It isn’t life or death.

“You cannot “prove” the “new testament’s” interpretation of the Hebrew Bible by quoting the “new testament” any more than you can prove the claims of mormonism by quoting the “book of mormon.” What about this is so hard for you to understand???”

Excessive use of question marks. 15 yard penalty. Perhaps you should take a deep breath and try to understand the other side’s perspective before you try to refute it.

“The “new testament” cannot authorize itself.”

Has someone claimed this?

“The Torah would have had to explicitly declare itself to be temporary and preparatory from day one for chrstianity to even be possible, and this is most assuredly not what happened.”

I understand that this is your belief. It would appear your view of God’s atributes is quite narrow.

“I absolutely marvel at chrstian’s immunity to this simple self-evident, logical truth.”

I understand your viewpoint on this. I of course disagree about several of these points for reasons above.

I wish you every blessing in Messiah.


102 posted on 01/09/2014 2:58:19 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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