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To: Iscool; daniel1212; Revolting cat!

This is unadulterated nonsense. We are not talking about “personal” sin. We were discussing Catholic teaching.

No one here is accusing you of being a sinner anymore that we claim personal righteousness.

This thread is about ONE truth based on the four pillars of scripture, tradition, revelation, and faith. Anything else, we have the scandal of serpent based religions in Kentucky claiming to be based on Scripture. Do you want the Anabaptists to instruct Scripture to those living in outer Mongolia? Or about Mormons taking their view of Scripture to Uruguay? This is why the Christ commanded the “Great Commission” specifically to Peter and his apostles and their successor and hence the authoritative structure of the Church.

Hence, it were the early Church Fathers who “organizationally” decided on which books to include in Scripture. This itself was a profound manifestation of the Holy Spirit working in God’s Church. Think about it? The Church deciding what Books constituted the Holy Bible. (These books did not fall from the sky).

No institution has been so assiduously examined and researched for its beliefs and authenticity than the Catholic Church down through more than 2000 years. Tis explains the long list of ranking theologians of other faiths who converted to Catholicism.

The sheer stupidity of low-information Christians who are unable to grasp the profound works of St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas; Cardinal Henry Newman; and Benedict XVI allow them to quote random scriptural versions, no more than the Jim Jones’ and David Koreshs’, Joel Osteens; Rick Warrens, clowns like Bishop TD Jakes;, Rev. Wrights; and the Billy Grahams’ and the snake worshipping “Christian” sects in Appalachia. What’s common to all of them? They deny the Holy Eucharist. This is huge and makes the heresy all the more revolting.

So here’s how the rot of Protestantism begins.

Get yourself a empty garage, convert it into a nice inviting building put some shrubbery, and plant a cross. Make sure you can speak reasonably well.

Now, throw a lectern and some pews into the building, get some good feel good-music, make sure you don’t offend the prospective congregants, read Scripture, wave the Bible in the air, get yourself a spiffy outfit, do a small gig, and shout out verses, and oh, don’t forget the coffee and doughnuts after what passes off for “Sunday Services” and viola, we have yet another brand of the Protestant faith.

This is the sad spectacle we have today but it shows the unfortunate decay and rot caused by Luther, Calvin, Wesley, and the rest of the heretics, now numbering over 35,000 Protestant denominations.

So go tell this to the folks in China’s Sichuan province and have them choose what flavor of Scriptural meringue and forms of worship suits them best. And of course, all in God’s holy name!


107 posted on 01/06/2014 1:14:07 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Very good, but it’s spelled , “voila”! (One boss I had spelled it “wolla”, and I couldn’t convince him otherwise!)

And I don’t want to trivialize what you said, because I agree with all of it.


108 posted on 01/06/2014 1:19:12 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Steelfish

Your post reminded me of the documentary film and the preacher named “Marjoe”, who betrayed the tent show/store front racket, way back in the 1970s, a preacher since childhood, like presumably Franklin Graham today. Needless to say, the film was denounced as anti-Christian propaganda.

It also reminded me of street corner preachers who’d visit the university campus nearby waving their Bibles, condemning the students to hell, and in return be subjected to constant mocking and ridicule, but returning there day after day, and converting no one. And when some students or local hippies engaged them in debates, they, the hippies, would make more sense than these holy men, which isn’t much different from the debates here where one side can only cut and paste long excerpts from the Scripture and disregard the 2,000 years or meditation and theology, and spit on Joseph Ratzinger and his life’s work, as if he were some high school kid promoting a science fiction novel he wrote.


111 posted on 01/06/2014 1:59:35 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Steelfish
So go tell this to the folks in China’s Sichuan province and have them choose what flavor of Scriptural meringue and forms of worship suits them best. And of course, all in God’s holy name!

Christians are telling the folks in China, and S. Korea and all over S. and C. America and Africa folks are leaving your intellectual religion in droves to these places that preach Jesus and are accepting him as their Savior...

The sheer stupidity of low-information Christians who are unable to grasp the profound works of St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas; Cardinal Henry Newman; and Benedict XVI

I have yet to find any thing by these guys that is profound...But then my God is not philosophy...I have found tho that they have lots of opinions that are unbiblical...

They deny the Holy Eucharist. This is huge and makes the heresy all the more revolting.

I'll wear that badge, proudly...I have never eaten a wafer and pretended it was Jesus, and never will...

112 posted on 01/06/2014 2:22:15 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Steelfish
The sheer stupidity of low-information Christians who are unable to grasp the profound works of St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas; Cardinal Henry Newman; and Benedict XVI allow them to quote random scriptural versions, no more than the Jim Jones’ and David Koreshs’, Joel Osteens; Rick Warrens, clowns like Bishop TD Jakes;, Rev. Wrights; and the Billy Grahams’ and the snake worshipping “Christian” sects in Appalachia. What’s common to all of them? They deny the Holy Eucharist. This is huge and makes the heresy all the more revolting.

Sometimes Gary Larson gets it right with some groups of people.


114 posted on 01/06/2014 2:59:49 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Steelfish
The sheer stupidity of low-information Christians who are unable to grasp the profound works of St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas; Cardinal Henry Newman; and Benedict XVI

To think that brainiac Cephas was a fishermen.

115 posted on 01/06/2014 3:02:19 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Steelfish
four pillars of scripture, tradition, revelation, and faith.

Speaking of tradition...When do you think Peter thought it most appropriate to wear the red shoes of the papacy?


116 posted on 01/06/2014 3:11:17 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Steelfish; redleghunter; unlearner; presently no screen name; Greetings_Puny_Humans
This is why the Christ commanded the “Great Commission” specifically to Peter and his apostles and their successor and hence the authoritative structure of the Church.

Which equates to a perpetual infallible magisterium. Affirm or deny. That is the issue and the problem with your argument.

The Church deciding what Books constituted the Holy Bible.

So those who recognize writings as being Scripture, leading to a canon, are the infallible or assuredly trustworthy interpreters of it? Affirm or deny. No one has yet. Do you want to know why?

The sheer stupidity of low-information Christians who are unable to grasp the profound works of St. Augustine,

Actually, as often shown, it is low-information Catholics who are unable to see grasp the words of men like Matthew Henry , Charles Haddon Spurgeon , Albert Barnes , Keil & Delitzsch , Jamieson, Fausset and Brown, , John Gill, and many others, the like of which Rome collectively has not.

Meanwhile, RCs are also unable to see how Rome thinks of men above that which is written, and trusts in them as if it were Scripture, while Rome judges CFs more than they judge here, and both are guilty of perpetuating traditions of men. Either you are invincibly ignorant of the spurious nature of your arguments or willfully so, thus refuse to answer questions that would expose that.

They deny the Holy Eucharist. This is huge and makes the heresy all the more revolting.

Even the one's you deny have enough sense i presume to deny worshiping a wafer of bread as God, and consuming human flesh to gain spiritual life or qualities, which is like paganism, not Scripture. This is huge and makes the heresy all the more revolting.

The rest of your unholy rant is a result of the cultic deception RCs are craftily induced into believing. May God grant them mercy and repentance.

128 posted on 01/06/2014 7:03:31 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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