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Now in the scriptures it talks about there being two comforters this is a list of scriptures from the LDS point of understanding.
Two Comforters are spoken of. The first is the Holy Ghost (John 14:16–27; Moro. 8:26; D&C 21:9; 42:17; 90:11). The Second Comforter is the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. “When any man obtains this last Comforter, he will have the personage of Jesus Christ to attend him, or appear unto him from time to time, and even He will manifest the Father unto him” (D&C 88:3–4; 130:3; HC 3:381). See also Holy Ghost.
Comforter aka Holy Ghost was briefly spoken about in
John 7
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
and also in John 14
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
John 16
5 But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?
6 But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
The Spirit of God was spoke of in the OT and now the Spirit of the Lord in the NT.
I hope it does not offend you to share these things
It seems the Holy Spirit aka The Spirit of the Lord could not be received until Jesus went away.
“It seems the Holy Spirit aka The Spirit of the Lord could not be received until Jesus went away.”
Thank you again for sharing..
Jesus went away, but at the same time He did not leave. He is still here and was always here. He did however leave our direct awareness.
There is an unwritten reality that most people are unaware. You are only allowed to be consciously aware of one level of consciousness above the level at which you exist. This is for our own protection.
When Jesus went through the dark night of the soul experience, He raised to the next level where He became aware that our Father and He are One. That is why He said what He did.
Jesus then went on to say that He is in His Father and His Father in Him. He further added that if we are in Him (this is what communion is about) then His Father that is in Him is also in us.
If you think of Russian nesting dolls as the model of understanding where God is the big outermost doll. We would be the little doll in the middle and Jesus would be one of the dolls between us and God. (Thus we cannot get to God except through Jesus)
This is pretty much how it works based upon my own experience. This is why Jesus said what He did in Matthew 24:25 about the messiah will be seen as the lightning in the east is seen in the west. Jesus is already here and we all can perceive Him by growing.