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Vanishing Catholics
hprweb ^ | December 23, 2013 | FR. WILLIAM P. CLARK, OMI

Posted on 12/28/2013 3:59:04 PM PST by NYer

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To: NKP_Vet

Amen!


321 posted on 12/29/2013 6:34:58 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: metmom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCB9D4BH1Ws


322 posted on 12/29/2013 6:36:15 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Rather than love, than money, than fame, then give truth" ~ Henry David Thoreau)
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To: stonehouse01; redleghunter
Find a pres(by}try (priest) and do it and be free

I found Jesus and did it and am free. HE made me free and whom the Son sets free is free indeed. (John 8:36)

I trust God enough to take Him at His word and do not need a *priest* to tell me so I can be sure. It's a sure sign that someone does not trust God when they have to rely on people to tell them.

Why believe it when a priest tells you but not when God tells you? THAT is a lack of faith.

323 posted on 12/29/2013 6:38:08 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: daniel1212

Oh, one of the blood of trails types. Your arguments are borderline Gnostic that American Evangelicals have the orthodox faith.

Your beliefs are fundamentally anti Incarnational and Gnostic. Christ became and found a Church which is the visible sign of his presence down thru the centuries ordered thru space and time.


324 posted on 12/29/2013 6:38:13 PM PST by CTrent1564
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To: NKP_Vet

Respect is a two way street.

Physician, heal thyself.


325 posted on 12/29/2013 6:39:41 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: verga

It wasn’t a gotcha question. The James as the lead elder of the Church of Jerusalem was not the disciple and apostle James.


326 posted on 12/29/2013 6:40:58 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

Nor was he James the Lesser.

He was still another James.


327 posted on 12/29/2013 6:41:43 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CTrent1564

There are many aspects of modern Catholicism that fit the Gnostic label far better, it’s apparently a mystery religion to quite a few, Fatima and Medjugordje ( however that’s spelled) spring immediately to mind.


328 posted on 12/29/2013 6:42:05 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: verga

Why do you and how can you deny her regeneration? You can’t so beam meet eye.


329 posted on 12/29/2013 6:42:20 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

Ahhh, good history leasson. I forgot about Al Smith running for president. He was indeed a Catholic. My main point remains. the Republican party of the early 20th century was very Nativist and viewed Catholics with suspicion and disdain. There were large segments of Protestant America, including clergy, that were responsible for a resurgent KKK which had in its sights Blacks, Jews, and Catholics.

The Democratic party at the time fought the nativist anti-Catholic sentiment and Catholics flocked to the Democratic party. Al Smith was indeed one of the major influences but it was also FDR and Truman. It really wasn’t until Reagan that the Reagan Democrats sort of moved to the Republican party. While they were not laissez faire capitalist, they were socially conservative and supported Reagans Cold war policies vs. the Soviet Union. You can say that is what brought me out of the Democratic party in the 80’s


330 posted on 12/29/2013 6:43:27 PM PST by CTrent1564
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To: RegulatorCountry

Fatima is an approved apparition.


331 posted on 12/29/2013 6:43:32 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NKP_Vet

I have offered free copies of the CD to numerous protestants. Each of them has run in the opposite direction as fast as they could offering only the feeblest of excuses.


332 posted on 12/29/2013 6:45:40 PM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: verga

So what spiritual illness leads a 3 year old child to get leukemia?


333 posted on 12/29/2013 6:45:53 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

Go back and read all of my posts. I am not going to play “gotcha” games.


334 posted on 12/29/2013 6:49:22 PM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Those are private revelation and are not binding on the faithful. You are 100% wrong. Fatima is a private revelation. It is approved in that it does not contradict any public revelation and does not contradict doctrine. However, nothing in private revelation can result in a Doctrine of the Church. In addition, someone can accept or reject Fatima and be a Catholic in good standing. See Official Catholic teaching on this question in the CCC paragraph 66 and 67

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s1c2a1.htm#III

Gnosticism is an inherent denial of the Incarnation of CHrist, ie. he only appeared to have a physical body. In so much as Gnosticism is implicit in many non Catholic and Eastern Orthodox traditions, one only has to look at their ecclesiology. The Church is the Body of Christ and thus its characteristics are linked to CHrist himself, True God and True Man. The Church then has both a visible and spiritual reality. It is the Community of all the Baptized, those on Earth an those in Heaven. So the Church is like a sacrament a visible sign of God’s presence on Earth. This notion that the Church is an invisible community of believers [which is a Protestant conception of the Church] is implicitly Gnostic


335 posted on 12/29/2013 6:53:07 PM PST by CTrent1564
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To: metmom

Maybe you can help. Looking for the epistle that says “foolish Galatians, don’t you remember to pray the Rosary every day.”


336 posted on 12/29/2013 6:55:40 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: CTrent1564
Oh, one of the blood of trails types. Your arguments are borderline Gnostic that American Evangelicals have the orthodox faith. Your beliefs are fundamentally anti Incarnational and Gnostic. Christ became and found a Church which is the visible sign of his presence down thru the centuries ordered thru space and time.

It is when faced with Scriptural substantiation and other evidence that refutes the claims of Rome to be the rep. of Christ and literally physically feed him to the masses that they resort to such nonsense as this.

It is Rome that leans toward Gnosticism, and teaches historical events of Scripture were fables and folk tales, and makes a mockery of the church as being the body of Christ, and imagines it turns a wafer into Him.

Thanks for admitting your lack of argument.

337 posted on 12/29/2013 7:00:41 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: stonehouse01; metmom

Romans 8:28-39 NABRE

We know that all things work for good for those who love God, who are called according to his purpose. For those he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, so that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.

And those he predestined he also called; and those he called he also justified; and those he justified he also glorified. What then shall we say to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare his own Son but handed him over for us all, how will he not also give us everything else along with him?

Who will bring a charge against God’s chosen ones? It is God who acquits us. Who will condemn? It is Christ [Jesus] who died, rather, was raised, who also is at the right hand of God, who indeed intercedes for us. What will separate us from the love of Christ? Will anguish, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or the sword? As it is written: “For your sake we are being slain all the day; we are looked upon as sheep to be slaughtered.” No, in all these things we conquer overwhelmingly through him who loved us.

For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor present things, nor future things, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.


338 posted on 12/29/2013 7:00:52 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: metmom

I went to Church and was “born again” like all good evengelicals. Then for the next 45 years or so I would go to church, sing and shout, and go home and listen to Hank Williams gospel music and get drunk. I was a heathen in every sense of the word. But no one could tell me that because I would say I knew Jesus because “I was born again”,
and I could do what I wanted to do because me and Jesus had a good thing going and I didn’t need anybody to tell me what it was all about.

Well I didn’t know Jesus, and it was not until I became a Catholic in 2008 that I know how ignorant I really had been of our Lord and Savior. I became Catholic and finally knew I had found a home and after looking all my life for Jesus I had finally found him. And the precious Eucharist is where I find my strength. Praise God. I am finally at home in the loving arms of my savior. He strengths me and with him at my side all things are possible.


339 posted on 12/29/2013 7:02:01 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Rather than love, than money, than fame, then give truth" ~ Henry David Thoreau)
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To: NKP_Vet
The absolute worst Catholic bashers are fallen-away Catholics. They are all on a guilt trip...Show a little respect.

Yada yada. Do you ever have anything original to say than resorting to imaginative psychological ad hominem attacks and bare assertions, even defending what is really a wafer god.

Let me know when you have an actual argument rather than looking silly promoting your elitist church.

340 posted on 12/29/2013 7:07:42 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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