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To: Kevmo

In “The New Catholic Encyclopedia” (Bearing the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur, indicating official approval) we get a glimpse of how the concept of the Trinity was not introduced into Christianity until close to four hundred years after Jesus (pbuh):

“.......It is difficult in the second half of the 20th century to offer a clear, objective and straightforward account of the revelation, doctrinal evolution, and theological elaboration of the Mystery of the trinity. Trinitarian discussion, Roman Catholic as well as other, present a somewhat unsteady silhouette. Two things have happened. There is the recognition on the part of exegetes and Biblical theologians, including a constantly growing number of Roman Catholics, that one should not speak of Trinitarianism in the New Testament without serious qualification. There is also the closely parallel recognition on the part of historians of dogma and systematic theologians that when one does speak of an unqualified Trinitarianism, one has moved from the period of Christian origins to, say, the last quadrant of the 4th century. It was only then that what might be called the definitive Trinitarian dogma ‘One God in three Persons’ became thoroughly assimilated into Christian life and thought ... it was the product of 3 centuries of doctrinal development” (emphasis added).

“The New Catholic Encyclopedia” Volume XIV, p. 295.

They admit it!. Jesus’ twelve apostles lived and died never having heard of any “Trinity” !

Did Jesus leave his closest and dearest followers so completely and utterly baffled and lost that they never even realized the “true” nature of God? Did he leave them in such black darkness that neither they nor their children, nor yet their children’s children would ever come to recognize the “true” nature of the One they are to worship? Do we really want to allege that Jesus was so thoroughly incompetent in the discharge of his duties that he left his followers in such utter chaos that it would take them fully three centuries after his departure to finally piece together the nature of the One whom they are to worship? Why did Jesus never, even once, just say “God, the Holy Ghost and I are three Persons in one Trinity. Worship all of us as one”? If he had only chosen to make just one such explicit statement to them he could have relieved Christianity of centuries of bitter disputes, division, and animosity.


538 posted on 12/25/2013 11:03:53 PM PST by tedw
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To: tedw

Two points. First, you answered why no Roman Catholics post on this thread.

Second point Jesus did say this;

Luke 24:44-45 NASB

Now He said to them, “These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures,


547 posted on 12/25/2013 11:20:22 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: tedw

we get a glimpse of how the concept of the Trinity was not introduced into Christianity until close to four hundred years after Jesus
***What a bunch of horse manure. The evidence that Jesus claimed equality with God is from the first century. That post that you so blithely ignore contains much of that evidence.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3104583/posts


577 posted on 12/26/2013 1:04:56 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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