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To: count-your-change

“argument with a majority”

False use of that fallacy. The point is that ALL Christians, except for a few heretics that were ostracized and booted from Christianity...believed in Jesus as full man and full God.

“Only God can send the Holy Spirit....The Holy Spirit is referred to in Scripture as both the Spirit of the Father (Mt 10:20, Rom 8:10-11, and as the Spirit of the Son (Rom 8:9, Gal 4:6, Phil 1:19, 1 Pt 1:11). Statements saying that the Spirit is “of” the other two Persons of the Trinity indicate that his Person is tightly bound up with and originates from them (just as the Son is the Son “of” the Father). “


354 posted on 12/25/2013 6:45:09 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Ted Cruz...2016-24 ...A New Conservative Era)
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To: rbmillerjr
Let's not read more into those Scriptures than they actually say. Those Scriptures do indeed show the spirit is under the control and direction of both Father and Son, but that is far from providing support for a three person God of equals. In fact it argues otherwise.

“argument with a majority”

False use of that fallacy. The point is that ALL Christians, except for a few heretics that were ostracized and booted from Christianity...believed in Jesus as full man and full God.”

Thus the doctrine was established, not with an appeal to reasoning from the Scriptures but by official dictat and ability to punish anyone who dissented.

Jesus’ words stand true and applicable.

361 posted on 12/25/2013 7:39:54 AM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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