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To: redleghunter

The Jesus is God thing is the devil’s concoction in order to deceive the deceivable and keep them in his kingdom of the lost. The original sin was wanting to be as God was..and the devil put that very same sin onto Jesus, through the minds of “smart” intellectuals of the apostasy. How dare you try and mess up such a wonderful thing God has done for all of us!


330 posted on 12/24/2013 10:39:57 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian

Now your saying “Jesus had original sin?” Please clarify.

It might help if you can define the “theos” Thomas was addressing in John 20:28. So if Jesus Christ, according to you, is not Truly God and Truly man, what was/is He? Putting it another way, what is the Nature of the Son of God and Son of man? Was He created, or always existing?

I have asked a few posters from your aisle the same questions and no one seems to be able to answer those questions.

I can see by a few posts you may not be familiar or comfortable with formal discussions and debate. That is fine. Just say you don’t want to discuss something any longer and we can go on from there. But please don’t play the victim. By coming on FR especially the RF, you should know this is a full contact sport here and if you don’t want to enter the field of battle, then don’t suit up and stay in the locker room.


333 posted on 12/24/2013 10:52:00 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: fabian; CynicalBear; daniel1212; boatbums; metmom; GarySpFc; Iscool
The Jesus is God thing is the devil’s concoction in order to deceive the deceivable and keep them in his kingdom of the lost.

How does that work? How is saying Jesus Christ, Jesus being the Son of Man definition, and Christ His Son of God definition, thus truly man and Truly God, how does that take away from the perfect sacrifice for the remission of sins?

I mean even Jesus Christ said to Satan the following...

Matthew 4:

5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

7 Jesus said unto him,It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Whoops, what did Jesus Christ say in verse 7? Did He mention to Satan to "not tempt the Lord thy God"? Wasn't Jesus being tempted? Jesus did not say "not to tempt the Son of God" nor did He say "not to tempt God's Begotten Son." No Jesus said "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." Or do you have an explanation of the use of "theos" here as well?

And for reference this is what Strongs has for the lexicon of "theos" for this passage:

Strongs G2316 in the following manner: God (1,320x), god (13x), godly (3x), God-ward (with G4214) (2x), misc (5x).

335 posted on 12/24/2013 11:08:08 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: fabian

The Jesus is God thing is the devil’s concoction
***The denial of the deity of Jesus is a simple and damnable heresy.

The way for FReepers to resolve this is to investigate the simple historicity behind the claim. Very simply, Jesus claimed to be God Himself.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3104583/posts


477 posted on 12/25/2013 8:33:51 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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