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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Peter and Paul did not believe that Jesus was God. We have that Testimony in the Bible.

They date to the first Century. Peter was a contemporary.


149 posted on 12/22/2013 5:08:31 PM PST by tedw
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To: tedw

“Peter and Paul did not believe that Jesus was God. We have that Testimony in the Bible.

They date to the first Century. Peter was a contemporary.”


Thank you for at least conceding, through your new silence, the other silly matter.

But as for the teachings of scripture, Yes they did.

“Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:”
(Php 2:5-7)

You’re also offering a false separation between being the ‘Son of God’ and being God incarnate. The two are the same.

Isa_9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isa_7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Mat_1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Such was the view of the Pharisees, who considered claiming to be the Son was the same as making yourself equal with God:

Joh_5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

And again, when they picked up the stones to kill Him, for claiming to be “I am.”

Joh 8:57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Joh 8:59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.


153 posted on 12/22/2013 5:27:00 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tedw
QUOTE: Peter and Paul did not believe that Jesus was God. We have that Testimony in the Bible.

To quote Jesus, "Are you not in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God?" Mark 12:24 NIV

Paul in Phillipians 2:6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; 7rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very natureb of a servant, being made in human likeness. NIV

Paul in Colossians 1:19 "For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him" NIV

Peter in 2 Peter 1:1 "Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ " NIV

159 posted on 12/22/2013 5:40:17 PM PST by jimmyray
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To: tedw; Greetings_Puny_Humans
Peter and Paul did not believe that Jesus was God. We have that Testimony in the Bible.

Instead of just repeating yourself, why don't you post the Scripture references to validate your claim?

161 posted on 12/22/2013 5:48:22 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: tedw; Greetings_Puny_Humans; CynicalBear; GarySpFc; boatbums; metmom
Peter and Paul did not believe that Jesus was God. We have that Testimony in the Bible.

Did Jesus, Peter or later Paul rebuke Thomas for this statement?:

John 20:

28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

Or do you have an Arian bible that says different? Or perhaps you find a different lexicon in which "God" is omitted in the text?

167 posted on 12/22/2013 6:15:06 PM PST by redleghunter
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