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Ted Haggard on How Not to Repent
The Aquila Report ^ | December 18, 2013 | David Murray

Posted on 12/18/2013 6:39:15 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: editor-surveyor; aimhigh
Yes, Acts 15...

Acts 15:28-29 For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

Those who are in Christ, who have died to the Law are free from the Law.

Romans 8:1-2 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.

41 posted on 12/20/2013 5:30:20 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

Well thanks but busy with life.. Have a blessed Christmas :)


42 posted on 12/20/2013 5:35:26 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; Gamecock; metmom; Alex Murphy
I believe we are at the end of time..

A lot of people have always believed that we're in the end times including the Apostle Paul. But I think there is ample evidence that we are now at the end of all things. The parallels between Christianity and Israel are interesting. Israel/Judah really only survived for a little more than 2,200 years. And there are stark parallels between now and the times of Jeremiah.

At the end, they wouldn't even allow Jeremiah in the temple. On the day of fasting-when people were suppose to be turning to God. They didn't want to hear God's message that the people needed to turn from their evil ways. Instead they taught everything was well and that God loved them believing more in themselves than in the power of God. And they condemned Jeremiah for saying differently.

There isn't much difference in messages these days. No one sees their sins. No one understand their offense to God. We live in a world where many do not believe and those who say they believe preach a false message of love and tolerance.

God loves us. He will protect and defend us. This was the message of those who were preaching in the temple in the days of Jeremiah. It was not a message of repentance. It was not a message of inward reflection about the sorry sinful state of our souls as John the Baptist would preach many years later. It is the same message taught today. If one brings up sin they are condemned just like Jeremiah.

Indeed, people have itching ears.
43 posted on 12/21/2013 4:29:21 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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I know that people have always thought it was the end times... but at no time in history has the world been this evil ...


44 posted on 12/21/2013 5:47:49 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: metmom
Romans 2:13

"(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified....)"

Parsing of scripture can deceive deeply.

45 posted on 12/22/2013 6:09:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

In Christ, I AM a doer of the Law.

All the righteous works He did are credited to my account.

I don’t have to depend on my human effort at all.


46 posted on 12/22/2013 6:19:59 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

You completely misunderstand salvation, judging by your posts.

Yeshua said plainly that he who does the will of the Father will be saved,

and he who does the Father’s commandments will be saved,

and he who endures to the end will be saved.

Taking those clear statements as hollow vocalizations would be folly.

You are a hearer of the law if you follow orthodox worship, but being a doer requires proactive participation.

Of course, I have no idea what you do, but I do find some simplistic comments to be troubling.


47 posted on 12/22/2013 7:31:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

2 Corinthians 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.


48 posted on 12/22/2013 8:16:41 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

It takes the whole of the scriptures to tell it.

Hiding behind a handful of verses that seem comforting will leave you in the dark.


49 posted on 12/22/2013 8:29:36 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: aimhigh
>> "So you reject the Jerusalem Council's conclusion?"<<

Foolish strawman!

The Jerusalem's chief conclusion, and the heart of Acts 15,

verse 21:

"For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day."

They went easy on the new converts because they expected them to be in the synagogue every Sabbath day, hearing Moses books preached, thus learning how to follow the Way of Yeshua.

50 posted on 12/23/2013 9:09:09 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

False and presumptive interpretation. Read the full text.


51 posted on 12/23/2013 9:18:11 AM PST by aimhigh
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It is the heart of the entire episode.

Torah is the heart of the Way of Yeshua, and nothing less would lead them to their ultimate perseverance in Faith.

Read the epistles, all of them; Torah based worship was their purpose, day by day. The key event of most of the epistles was one of the feasts, and Paul’s travels revolved around the amount of time it would take him to get to Jerusalem in time for the required feasts.


52 posted on 12/23/2013 9:24:08 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life." Jesus is the heart of Yeshua, not the Torah. Jesus said the law would pass away when all of it was fulfilled, and He fulfilled it. He said He came to fulfill it (Matthew 5).

"And THIS (THIS, not the law) is His commandment, that you believe in the name of His son Jesus Christ, and love one another as He gave us Commandment."

Right after give us the New Covenant in His blood, He gave us a New Commandment. Why, because the old were not sufficient.

53 posted on 12/23/2013 9:40:27 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: editor-surveyor
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life." Jesus is the heart of Yeshua, not the Torah. Jesus said the law would pass away when all of it was fulfilled, and He fulfilled it. He said He came to fulfill it (Matthew 5).

"And THIS (THIS, not the law) is His commandment, that you believe in the name of His son Jesus Christ, and love one another as He gave us Commandment."

Right after give us the New Covenant in His blood, He gave us a New Commandment. Why, because the old were not sufficient.

54 posted on 12/23/2013 9:40:28 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: editor-surveyor
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life." Jesus is the heart of Yeshua, not the Torah. Jesus said the law would pass away when all of it was fulfilled, and He fulfilled it. He said He came to fulfill it (Matthew 5).

"And THIS (THIS, not the law) is His commandment, that you believe in the name of His son Jesus Christ, and love one another as He gave us Commandment."

Right after give us the New Covenant in His blood, He gave us a New Commandment. Why, because the old were not sufficient.

55 posted on 12/23/2013 9:40:28 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

Torah is what Yeshua preached day by day, wherever he went.

Torah is what Yeshua and his disciples followed to the minutest detail every minute of every day. Torah is his Way.

Deny Yeshua, and forfeit your chance at eternal life.


56 posted on 12/23/2013 9:46:51 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

And do you keep the Torah? Do you go to Jerusalem as required for the feasts?


57 posted on 12/23/2013 9:51:53 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

Jesus, for your uninformed assistance, is a deliberate mistransliteration of Joshua by the men that translated the KJV in the early 17th century. No one had ever heard that invented name before that. They got the name correct for Joshua in the OT, and the same name is used for both in every known Greek MS. (The J in Joshua is pronounced like a Y)


58 posted on 12/23/2013 9:52:25 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: aimhigh

The temple has not existed since 68 AD.


59 posted on 12/23/2013 9:53:20 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

So now you are picking and choosing what parts of the law to obey.


60 posted on 12/23/2013 9:56:18 AM PST by aimhigh
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