[DouglasKC]

Obedience (works) is an essential part of faith. You cannot have a living faith without works—obeying God.

They go hand in hand don't they?

[cuban leaf]

Obedience (works) is an essential part of faith. You cannot have a living faith without works—obeying God.
They go hand in hand don’t they?

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Yep. You are not a brain surgeon because you have a shingle that sez you are one. You are a brain surgeon because you perform brain surgery. But you have to have the shingle to do it legitimately.

i.e. Works don’t save, but they are proof of salvation. However, there is that dicey little verse that talks of the man who’s works are all burned up, but he himself is saved, as through a fire. So the question is, how many good works is enough? My take: only the Lord knows. But I suspect it’s darned few. And if you are worrying about how many works you are doing, your head is in the wrong place. You’r about to trip over the stone discussed in Romans.