[ravenwolf]

I have smoked for over 60 years and i have never been over weight because i worked.

The reason i made that remark is that the preachers do not want to insinuate that some one is committing adultery so they will get onto people about smoking.

Which is not even mentioned in scripture.

[cuban leaf]

smoked = been alive.

I don’t smoke. Sorry about that...

[cuban leaf]

Oops. You were responding to me and I hastily thought I’d accidentally said I smoked. Ignore my post previous to this one.

BTW, I agree with you. There are a lot of subjects that are taboo in church because too many people’s ox’s will be gored. The guy I bought my house from became the pastor at a local Babdis church that had very old lifetime members that attended “religiously”, yet could not tell you the difference between the old and new testaments.

He tried to actually preach what was in the bible. They fired him after about 11 months.

[American Constitutionalist]

Yeah even law preachers would deride someone who says a cuss word in church rather then preaching on someone who passes by a poor begger on the street who is hungery, you know, gotsta keep that law perfectly so they look so spriual to everyone in their inflated egos but teaching the letter of the law while at the same time not keep the spirit of the law.
The law preachers are on a ego trip to gather unto them selves people who they can control and manipulate with impressionable minds.

[American Constitutionalist]

Everything in moderation.
Nope the bible does not say anything about smoking.
The bible also does not totally forbid drinking alcoholic drinks.
What the bible is against is drunkenness in excess to the point that even the worldly people have a problem with it.
By the way ? didn't Jesus associate with sinners, publicans, harlets, cussing sailers more than the so called goodie two shoes religious leaders of his day ?
Well now, that speaks volumes in where God's heart really is.