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To: DouglasKC
" Hbr 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit "

Yup, that's another tried and true verse some pastors use to keep people in line and under their control in fear.

No where does it say in that verse that those people accepted, believed on, or even actually got saved.

It says, that they were " Enlighten "

You can have people to hear the Gospel and understand what it means, but never going all the way and get saved.
Remember ? these people came up from the Jewish traditions and culture and would have been mocked or thrown out of the Synagogues if they were to be found out to be Christians.
After all ? this book was written to the HEBREWS, but was written for our benefit.
These were in the mushy ground of the land of in between.
However ? if they totally and finally reject the Gospel of Christ and his Grace ? and the woowing of the Holy Spirit ? and go back in to Judaism ?
Then they can no ever be brought back to repentance ) a change of mind, or one's purpose, that's what the greek word metanoeó actually means ) onto the saving grace and salvation in Christ for they have totally and finally rejected it.
284 posted on 12/15/2013 4:09:01 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist
" Hbr 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit "
Yup, that's another tried and true verse some pastors use to keep people in line and under their control in fear.
No where does it say in that verse that those people accepted, believed on, or even actually got saved.

Nonsense...this is how the author addresses them:

Hebrew 3:1 Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus,

They are holy brethren. Partakers (the same word used in 6:14) of the calling. They've confessed Christ.

And later:

Hbr 3:12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; Hbr 3:13 but exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
Hbr 3:14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end,

Again persevere to the end. It was written to CHRISTIANS. It's in the CHRISTIAN bible. Who cares if they used to be Hebrews?

These words also echo the words of Paul to Timothy which you failed to address.

287 posted on 12/15/2013 4:39:49 PM PST by DouglasKC
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