[FreedomStar3028]

I can’t understand or fathom this, it all seems so petty, and ridiculous that Muslims and Jews cannot both pray on the temple mount.

[RginTN]

Muslims like interfaith cooperation in Western countries where they are the minority but one sees their true colors in how they react to Jews worshipping in Jerusalem at Jewish holy sites.

[Biggirl]

Yet that is simply, the temple mount, really under Jewish control.

[Excellence]

The next time the Jews win a war, they need to hang onto the spoils thereof, and quit trying to be so freaking accommodating.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

“is creating a potentially explosive clash”

Citizens of a nation wanting to do something legal at a holy site in their own country, is *not* “creating a potentially explosive clash”.

If anyone is doing so, it is the people who attack them. Violent aggression is *never* justified by being offended at someone else praying.

[left that other site]

David Builds an Altar 18 On that day Gad went to David and said to him, “Go up and build an altar to the Lord on the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite.” 19 So David went up, as the Lord had commanded through Gad. 20 When Araunah looked and saw the king and his officials coming toward him, he went out and bowed down before the king with his face to the ground. 21 Araunah said, “Why has my lord the king come to his servant?” “To buy your threshing floor,” David answered, “so I can build an altar to the Lord, that the plague on the people may be stopped.” 22 Araunah said to David, “Let my lord the king take whatever he wishes and offer it up. Here are oxen for the burnt offering, and here are threshing sledges and ox yokes for the wood. 23 Your Majesty, Araunah[d] gives all this to the king.” Araunah also said to him, “May the Lord your God accept you.” 24 But the king replied to Araunah, “No, I insist on paying you for it. I will not sacrifice to the Lord my God burnt offerings that cost me nothing.” So David bought the threshing floor and the oxen and paid fifty shekels[e] of silver for them. 25 David built an altar to the Lord there and sacrificed burnt offerings and fellowship offerings. Then the Lord answered his prayer in behalf of the land, and the plague on Israel was stopped.

In any Real Estate transaction there needs to be the Naming of the Parties Involved, A Description of the Property, and the price paid.

Yep...it's all there in the Book of 2 Samuel 24.Since then. all occupation of the Temple Mount has been through conquest, theft, or intimidation. This is the Founding Document, duly recorded. It BELONGS to The Jews.

[Zionist Conspirator]

The issue of whether or not Jews may ascend the Har HaBayit (Temple Mount) in this day and time is very, very complicated and should be left to the Sages to solve rather than politicians.

Since there has been no red heifer for almost two thousand years, most Jews (except the very young) are in a state of ritual impurity from contact with dead bodies. According to the Torah, such people may not enter certain precincts on the Temple Mount. There is disagreement as to whether the location of these precincts is known with certainty today.

By nature and inclination I am a "build the Temple now!" kinda guy. But I have learned that it's much more complicated than that and I am trying to adopt a more Halakhic orientation.

One of the people pushing this is Moshe Feiglin, whom I have long supported (I used to post a lot of his stuff here). However, Moshe is sort of an American-style libertarian who wants religion to be private. What he wants is not so much a Halakhic Torah State as a Jewish version of early America, where orthodox religion is ingrained in the culture to such an extent that state enforcement is not needed. He has even assured homosexuals in Israel that he will respect their "rights." Why someone with this type of secular conservative/privately Orthodox political ideology would advocate Jewish sovereignty over the Temple Mount (which is the very heart and soul of public Torah Theocracy) is beyond me.