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To: smvoice; CynicalBear; daniel1212; roamer_1

No one ever argued those points. The discussion has been that Peter and the 11 did not preach the same gospel.

At the very least we have to hunt for another gospel and in doing so the results are inconclusive based on opposing scriptures. When something is inconclusive we should not be dogmatic on it as we know all too well others do that.

That is why I do not let eschatology, keys, binding, pebbles and do not rely soley on sermons in a clearly historical book on early believers guide soteriology. The clear and unequivacal evidence is the Gospel is Grace through faith. Period. I believe by Peter’s sermons in Acts and his epistles it shows he preached the same gospel. There is no need to set up a different gospel or dispensation for things to play out in end times the way we think they will. To put up that other competing gospel or dispensation encourages believers to then look at the Words of Jesus and say “they don’t apply to me.” That is not what He said at all.


310 posted on 11/26/2013 5:11:47 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

Please read carefully my post 309.


311 posted on 11/26/2013 5:13:44 PM PST by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: redleghunter; smvoice; daniel1212
>> The discussion has been that Peter and the 11 did not preach the same gospel.<<

It IS the same gospel but a “mystery” was kept from the other apostles until it was given to Paul. That “mystery” was that there is no effort, action, or work that man does or can do without having been saved by grace through the gift of salvation. Man cannot by doing something merit salvation. The 12 apostles had not been given the revelation of that “mystery”. They taught that salvation followed action.

I think we need to change the terminology used. It is not “another gospel” but is an understanding of how salvation is attained by man.

314 posted on 11/26/2013 5:25:30 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: redleghunter
There is no need to set up a different gospel or dispensation for things to play out in end times the way we think they will. To put up that other competing gospel or dispensation encourages believers to then look at the Words of Jesus and say “they don’t apply to me.

Does this apply to you???

”Luk 3:3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;

Luk 3:7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Luk 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

Luk 3:9 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Luk 3:10 And the people asked him, saying, What shall we do then?
Luk 3:11 He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise.
Luk 3:12 Then came also publicans to be baptized, and said unto him, Master, what shall we do?
Luk 3:13 And he said unto them, Exact no more than that which is appointed you.
Luk 3:14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages.

336 posted on 11/26/2013 9:42:20 PM PST by Iscool
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