That is commonly taught, but incorrect except in the general sense that that the Holy Spirit was not poured out upon all believers.
Remember that God is dealing with the Israelites during that seven year period just as He did prior to Christs death, resurrection and ascension. i see that is speculation at best, as the existence of the temple and sacrifices in the Trib can be seen as a restoration of Judaism, but not as a means of salvation, but instead the Lord shall manifest them as being void, as they must and will look upon the Lord Jesus for salvation by faith, as they always must.
For after the fulness of the Gentiles is entered in, God will reverse the general curse of blindness (as seen in Rm. 11 ) and
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. (Zechariah 12:10)
But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. (2 Corinthians 3:14-16)
The last indication i see of souls being saved in the Trib. before the end is,
And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. (Revelation 11:13)
After that all i see impenitence till the end when God grants repentance to Israel, that is the remnant of what is left .
And then with the devil bound (no Sammy Davis excuse) God will test them as a nation in the millennium, in which both Israel and other nations will be under the theocracy of Christ, who rules with a rod of iron while gently leading his flock with you, the with its Temple and sacrifices Ezekiel describes, which themselves are not expiatory, but could be like the Lord's Supper today.
The NT saints will make up the government under their King Jesus, and the last test will be the devil being loosed to tempt whoever can be seduced into rebellion. Which get toasted and then the saints enter the Heavenly City for eternity. (Rv. 19-22) Thanks be to God for so great salvation at so great a cost, by the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ!
Pleas show the Old Testament scripture that shows the Holy Spirit dwelling within those OT believers as opposed to just speaking to them.
>> i see that is speculation at best, as the existence of the temple and sacrifices in the Trib can be seen as a restoration of Judaism, but not as a means of salvation, but instead the Lord shall manifest them as being void, as they must and will look upon the Lord Jesus for salvation by faith, as they always must.<<
The Temple is to be rebuilt per the instructions of God. All sacrifices are to be resumed as it is the continuation of the 490 years prophesied by Daniel.
>> The last indication i see of souls being saved in the Trib. before the end is,<<
Whoa there. Revelation 11:13 says they give glory to God just as they had done in the Old Testament. It does not say they recognized Jesus as the Messiah at that point. The remnant at the point has simply been set apart.
That is commonly taught, but incorrect except in the general sense that that the Holy Spirit was not poured out upon all believers.
TRUE, but while the 'outpouring' of Pentecost is a significant event, I would strengthen the emphasis of your statement: The Ruach Ha'Kodesh was not unknown prior to Pentecost. As a simple example, one cannot read the Psalms without a sure knowledge that David was Born Again. His intimate knowledge of the indwelling Spirit can only come from experience. He knew.
What is significant in the message of Pentecost is not the indwelling per se, but rather, what that indwelling permitted: The focus on the internal Temple - One often fails to see the Spring Feasts as a block of events, but the initiation at Passover is culminated in Pentecost... The fulfillment of the whole series is what creates the provision for the internal Temple in each Man... That is not to say that the internal Temple has not always been (because i think, it has always been the point), but that the potential thereof is finally realized in Messiah.
The last indication i see of souls being saved in the Trib. before the end is,
While it is ALWAYS dangerous to predict prophecy, I would submit that there is much more evidence than that - There are survivors who come through the tribulation out of all the nations... If it is true that Yeshua has conquered, and all His enemies are dust under His feet, then those surviving must be inferred to be at least 'not' his enemies... And the trees along the Jordan are for the 'healing of the nations' - One assumes those in Messiah are already healed perfectly, so what then is the need for this other thing, unless there are others? That those in Messiah are priests and kings, and will rule with him, suggests others - what is a priest except one who intercedes, and what is a king except one who reigns? Both infer 'others' which require ministrations.
Furthermore, there are generations in the millennium - suggesting births - Now, I am not one who believes that there are no more births to those in Messiah, but standard Christian belief would only allow those generations birthed to someone else, ergo, others...
After that all i see impenitence till the end when God grants repentance to Israel, that is the remnant of what is left .
I would submit that your statement is the residue of replacement theology - That Messiah would let Jerusalem (which he has carved on His Hands) go through the wrath of YHWH is simply an unconscionable position, which should be corrected. I think the very thing that causes the Jews to build the 3rd Temple will be the very same event which causes their conversion, and sends forth the 1440000 of each tribe... My bet is on the Magog war, but it is hard telling till it happens. The remnant left in Israel after the rapture will be like the remnant left everywhere at that time - unbelievers who will come to belief (and probably die) during the wrath portion.
[...](no Sammy Davis excuse)[....]
Ha! Don't look now, but you are dating yourself... ; )
And then with the devil bound (no Sammy Davis excuse) God will test them as a nation in the millennium, in which both Israel and other nations will be under the theocracy of Christ, who rules with a rod of iron while gently leading his flock with you, the with its Temple and sacrifices Ezekiel describes, which themselves are not expiatory, but could be like the Lord's Supper today.
Ezekiel's Temple is a study, isn't it? Judaism admits it's very function is different from the functions and sacrifices of Temple Judaism, yet it represents a conundrum to Christendom, because it blatantly predicts sacrifices... blood sacrifices even, which seems to be just alright with the Prince, who inhabits the Temple and takes His breakfast in the East Gate thereof. That riddle, which neither the Jew nor the Christian can swallow, might be a pointer in and of itself...
And in passing, it is important to note that the 'rod of iron' suggests 'justice' in the Hebrew sense... quite different than the 'force' suggested by the term in the nations that surround her.