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To: mdmathis6
Isaiah 45:7 says: “Forming light and creating darkness..I am the LORD that does all these.

yep poetic license is a wonderful thing. that does not alter the fact that darkness is the absence of light. And the darkness we experience is due to(created by) the Earths rotation on it's axis.

544 posted on 10/30/2013 4:34:02 PM PDT by verga (I refuse to apologize for being Catholic, I was raised to think for myself.)
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To: verga; mdmathis6
Isaiah 45:7 says: “Forming light and creating darkness..I am the LORD that does all these.

yep poetic license is a wonderful thing. that does not alter the fact that darkness is the absence of light. And the darkness we experience is due to(created by) the Earths rotation on it's axis.

"Poetic license" you say? Once again, it appears you have forgotten what your argument was. Mdmathis6 said:

“say God created the world/universe out of nothing?” Question is not phrased correctly....God invented both “dark and light” and he had to create “nothingness” with which to contrast “somethingness”?
The Bible says he created all things...even “nothingness”!

To which you responded:

Dark is the absence of Light, Cold is the absence of Heat, Nothing is the absence of anything. God did not invent dark or nothing. They are the absence of God. God is the source of light, heat and everything.

Your contention that God did not create darkness was disputed by God's very word, itself, when Almighty God says He DID create darkness as well as light.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7)

Other verses that say this are:

Exodus 10:21-23 And the LORD said to Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness which may be felt.

Exodus 14:20 So it came between the camp of Egypt and the camp of Israel; and there was the cloud along with the darkness, yet it gave light at night. Thus the one did not come near the other all night. …

Jeremiah 13:16 Give glory to the LORD your God, before he cause darkness, and before …

Ezekiel 32:8 All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over you, and set …

Joel 2:2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick …

Amos 4:13 For behold, He who forms mountains and creates the wind And declares to man what are His thoughts, He who makes dawn into darkness And treads on the high places of the earth, The LORD God of hosts is His name.

Nahum 1:8 But with an overflowing flood He will make a complete end of its site, And will pursue His enemies into darkness.

Jude 1:6 And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day,

Jude 1:12,13 These are the men who are hidden reefs in your love feasts when they feast with you without fear, caring for themselves; clouds without water, carried along by winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, uprooted; 13wild waves of the sea, casting up their own shame like foam; wandering stars, for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever.

In Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible, this verse is explained as:

    I form the light, and create darkness,.... Natural light, or that light which was produced at the first creation, and of which the sun is the fountain and source; or day which is light, and night which is darkness, the constant revolutions of which were formed, appointed, and are continued by the Lord, Genesis 1:3, moral light, or the light of nature, the rational understanding in man; spiritual light, or the light of grace, by which things spiritual and supernatural are known; the light of joy and comfort from Christ, the sun of righteousness; and the light of eternal glory and happiness: this is all from God, of his producing and giving; and so darkness is his creature; that natural darkness which was upon the face of the earth at the beginning; what arises from the absence of the sun, or is occasioned by the eclipses of it, or very black clouds; or any extraordinary darkness, such as was in Egypt; or deprivation of sight, blindness in men; and, in a figurative sense, ignorance and darkness that follow upon sin; judicial blindness, God gives men up and leaves them to; temporal afflictions and distresses, and everlasting punishment, which is blackness of darkness:

Darkness is MUCH more than just "the absence of light". Mdmathis6 was correct, you were corrected.

562 posted on 10/30/2013 10:07:30 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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