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To: Iscool
Heart-Rest:    "In case you are really serious, here are a couple quick ones for you: Voting against Barack Hussein Obama."

Iscool:    "Sorry, that's covered in the bible...You'll have to try again... Jas_4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin."

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No, sorry, Iscool, the name "Barack Hussein Obama" cannot be found anywhere in the Bible.    "Conservative Christians" would believe that the text you were pointing to might teach them to vote against B-O, while "Liberal Christians" would believe that the text you were pointing to might teach them to vote for B-O.    As a matter of fact, so many self-described Christians voted for B-O again in 2012, and that is why he is your president right now.

However, you've managed to fortuitously stumble upon a very good and valuable lesson, to teach you why the man-made, protestant fallacious teaching of "sola scriptura" is flawed and false.    Individual, private interpretation of scripture can be very problematic and lead people far astray, as St. Peter plainly made known in the Bible.    That is why we have so many thousands of disagreeing denominations, as well as many more numbers of individuals who insist that they know better what all scripture means just by their own personal interpretations.

If you spend some time prayerfully thinking about what you've stumbled into there, you may very well start to see the light, and head for the right Church - the one Church that Jesus Himself founded.

Keep trying there, Iscool.

505 posted on 10/29/2013 8:31:58 PM PDT by Heart-Rest (Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:7)
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To: Heart-Rest; Iscool; smvoice; metmom
>>That is why we have so many thousands of disagreeing denominations,<<

Yeah, Catholics are so fortunate to affiliate with an organization that is consistent and firm. Like you MUST belong to the RCC to be saved.

Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam: “We declare, say, define, and pronounce [ex cathedra] that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” "If, therefore, the Greeks or others say that they are not committed to Peter and to his successors, they necessarily say that they are not of the sheep of Christ, since the Lord says that there is only one fold and one shepherd (Jn.10:16). Whoever, therefore, resists this authority, resists the command of God Himself. " — Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam (Promulgated November 18, 1302) http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/b8-unam.html

Or maybe just be baptized like the Catholics is good enough.

818 "However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers. . . . All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church."

Or maybe you don’t need to know about the Catholic Church or even need to know Jesus to be saved.

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation.

Or maybe if you are a Muslim you can be saved.

CCC841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day.

Oh shoot, whatever you are is fine with us.

"If in coming face to face with God we accept Him in our lives, then we are converting. We become a better Hindu, a better Muslim, a better Catholic, a better whatever we are. ... What God is in your mind you must accept" (from Mother Teresa: Her People and Her Work , by Desmond Doig, p. 156, as quoted by Dave Hunt, Global Peace and the Rise of Antichrist , p. 149).

Yep! Firm in their doctrines they are! No duplicity there for sure.

517 posted on 10/30/2013 5:45:12 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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