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To: NYer
. . . explain the doctrine of the Trinity, or even use the word “Trinity”?

You asked. Ask and you shall receive...

John 1:1ff - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.
5 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

Colossians 1:15ff - He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.
16 For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him.
17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
18 He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.
19 For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him,
20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.

Genesis 1:26 - Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

Genesis 11:7 - Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, so that they will not understand one another’s speech.”

Isaiah 48:12ff - “Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called;
I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. 13 “Surely My hand founded the earth, And My right hand spread out the heavens; When I call to them, they stand together.
14 “Assemble, all of you, and listen! Who among them has declared these things?
The Lord loves him; he will carry out His good pleasure on Babylon, And His arm will be against the Chaldeans.
15 “I, even I, have spoken; indeed I have called him, I have brought him, and He will make his ways successful.
16 “Come near to Me, listen to this: From the first I have not spoken in secret, From the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord God has sent Me, and His Spirit.”

It appears that per scripture, Jesus was definitely with God AND was the one who created the world and they were ONE, yet TWO, actually THREE with the Holy Spirit as a separate entity from God. Now, as for the word "Trinity", don't ask me. It's a term referring to the three as one for descriptive purposes. The concept is in scripture even if the descriptive term is not. Funny how you fellas argue against that concept when the term "Pope" nor even the concept is in scripture. There is a word for that, ah, it escapes me right now.

41 posted on 10/27/2013 7:40:23 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Nice try, that could just as easily be referring to the Greek or Roman plurality of gods. The ONLY reason you recognize the trinity is due to a number of Catholic Councils.


89 posted on 10/27/2013 10:28:59 AM PDT by verga (Si hoc legere scis, nimium eruditionis)
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