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Questions for "Bible Christians" that they can't answer - Part 2
Catholic Convert ^ | October 27, 2013 | David Palm and Steve Ray

Posted on 10/27/2013 5:25:55 AM PDT by NYer

There are 38 questions + a few bonus questions. I have split them into two separate posts of 20 and 18 + bonus questions. In case you missed it, here is the link to Part 1. Are you ready?

21. Who in the Church had the authority to determine which books belonged in the New Testament canon and to make this decision binding on all Christians? If nobody has this authority, then can I remove or add books to the canon on my own authority?

22. Why do Protestant scholars recognize the early Church councils at Hippo and Carthage as the first instances in which the New Testament canon was officially ratified, but ignore the fact that those same councils ratified the Old Testament canon used by the Catholic Church today but abandoned by Protestants at the Reformation?

23. Why do Protestants follow postapostolic Jewish decisions on the boundaries of the Old Testament canon, rather than the decision of the Church founded by Jesus Christ?

24. How were the bishops at Hippo and Carthage able to determine the correct canon of Scripture, in spite of the fact that they believed all the distinctively Catholic doctrines such as the apostolic succession of bishops, the sacrifice of the Mass, Christ’s Real Presence in the Eucharist, baptismal regeneration, etc?

25. If Christianity is a “book religion,” how did it flourish during the first 1500 years of Church history when the vast majority of people were illiterate?

26. How could the Apostle Thomas establish the church in India that survives to this day (and is now in communion with the Catholic Church) without leaving them with one word of New Testament Scripture?

27. If sola Scriptura is so solid and biblically based, why has there never been a full treatise written in its defense since the phrase was coined in the Reformation?

28. If Jesus intended for Christianity to be exclusively a “religion of the book,” why did He wait 1400 years before showing somebody how to build a printing press?

29. If the early Church believed in sola Scriptura, why do the creeds of the early Church always say “we believe in the Holy Catholic Church,” and not “we believe in Holy Scripture”?

30. If the Bible is as clear as Martin Luther claimed, why was he the first one to interpret it the way he did and why was he frustrated at the end of his life that “there are now as many doctrines as there are heads”?

31. The time interval between the Resurrection and the establishment of the New Testament canon in AD 382 is roughly the same as the interval between the arrival of the Mayflower in America and the present day. Therefore, since the early Christians had no defined New Testament for almost four hundred years, how did they practice sola Scriptura?

32. If the Bible is the only foundation and basis of Christian truth, why does the Bible itself say that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim. 3:15)?

33. Jesus said that the unity of Christians would be objective evidence to the world that He had been sent by God (John 17:20-23). How can the world see an invisible "unity" that exists only in the hearts of believers?

34. If the unity of Christians was meant to convince the world that Jesus was sent by God, what does the ever-increasing fragmentation of Protestantism say to the world?

35. Hebrews 13:17 says, "Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you." What is the expiration date of this verse? When did it become okay not only to disobey the Church's leaders, but to rebel against them and set up rival churches?

36. The Koran explicitly claims divine inspiration, but the New Testament books do not. How do you know that the New Testament books are nevertheless inspired, but the Koran is not?

37. How does a Protestant know for sure what God thinks about moral issues such as abortion, masturbation, contraceptives, eugenics, euthanasia, etc.?

38. What is one to believe when one Protestant says infants should be baptized (e.g., Luther and Calvin) and another says it is wrong and unbiblical (e.g., Baptists and Evangelicals)?

A Few Bonus Questions

Where does the Bible . . .

. . . say God created the world/universe out of nothing?

. . . say salvation is attainable through faith alone?

. . . tell us how we know that the revelation of Jesus Christ ended with the death of the last Apostle?

. . . provide a list of the canonical books of the Old Testament?

. . . provide a list of the canonical books of the New Testament?

. . . explain the doctrine of the Trinity, or even use the word “Trinity”?

. . . tell us the name of the “beloved disciple”?

. . . inform us of the names of the authors of the Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John?

. . . who wrote the Book of Acts?

. . . tell us the Holy Spirit is one of the three Persons of the Trinity?

. . . .tell us Jesus Christ was both fully God and fully man from the moment of conception (e.g. how do we know His Divinity wasn't infused later in His life?) and/or tells us Jesus Christ is One Person with two complete natures, human and Divine and not some other combination of the two natures (i.e., one or both being less than complete)?

. . . that the church should, or someday would be divided into competing and disagreeing denominations?

. . . that Protestants can have an invisible unity when Jesus expected a visible unity to be seen by the world (see John 17)?

. . . tell us Jesus Christ is of the same substance of Divinity as God the Father?


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: antiprotestantrant; bible; biblequestions; christians; faith; romancatholicism; scripture; sectarianturmoil
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To: Salvation

No babies are killed by barrier methods of contraception either.

If preventing conception is so evil that the Catholic church teaches that Onan was killed by God for it, where does that leave those who practice NFP?

The hypocrisy of the Catholic church is staggering in their use of double standards.


261 posted on 10/27/2013 8:45:51 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: CynicalBear; smvoice
I’m not sure they would know how to process “independent”.

They can't because they are not permitted to think for themselves.

262 posted on 10/27/2013 8:53:07 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: metmom

263 posted on 10/27/2013 8:55:02 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: metmom

Where is there sin in abstention?


264 posted on 10/27/2013 8:55:24 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: editor-surveyor; Salvation
"Where do you get this misinformation?"

I would like to know as well. There is not a lot of primary sources on Constantine. Eusebius is probably the nearest one who showed some (*Some* rather loosely) form of objectivity. The others like Aurelius Victor wrote about secular happenings. The rest were one-sided secondary propaganda pieces criticizing or praising Constantine's reign (Written long after he died btw).
265 posted on 10/27/2013 8:55:37 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: editor-surveyor
There were only 12 Apostles (not counting Judas who never was given that office)
Apostle Timothy was selected and appointed how?
266 posted on 10/27/2013 8:57:25 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: editor-surveyor

267 posted on 10/27/2013 8:57:51 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: CynicalBear

268 posted on 10/27/2013 8:58:13 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: terycarl; CynicalBear
it is through the efforts of the Catholic Church that you even know what the scriptures are...

Who needs the Holy Spirit when we have the Catholic church, eh?

269 posted on 10/27/2013 8:59:56 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: editor-surveyor
Then what happened to the real Church? Did the gates of hell prevail against it?

I find it absolutely fascinating that God waited until Christianity had overrun Europe and developed a method to propagate Scripture quickly and accurately to restart the Church. Further he didn't do it in any of the countries exploring the world, Spain, Portugal, France and England (The Anglican communion accepts Saints). He started the New Church in a country completely fragmented into feuding principalities that proceeded to burn to the ground; nor did he found it in the dominant part, Austria.

The Muslim view of this actually makes more sense than the Protestant view.
270 posted on 10/27/2013 9:00:30 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: narses

NFP is not about abstention. It’s about contraception. That thing that the Catholic church condemns except when using the RCC approved method.

Kind of like annulment being Church sanctioned divorce.

The Catholic church always has a way out for its members to engage in some kind of sin that condemns when anyone else does it.


271 posted on 10/27/2013 9:02:40 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: metmom
NFP is not about abstention.
Wrong.
It’s about contraception.
Wrong.
272 posted on 10/27/2013 9:05:45 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: Salvation

“Jesus said to them again, ‘Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’ “


274 posted on 10/27/2013 9:08:37 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: narses

Timothy was not an Apostle.

He was Paul’s chief disciple, but the office of Apostle ended upon John’s death.

The Revelation makes it clear that there are only 12 apostles.


275 posted on 10/27/2013 9:10:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Salvation
A problem with contraception. It is killing or preventing the formation of a baby. It is murder too.

I believe that it is called onanism...the sin of Onan....his seed spilled on the ground.

276 posted on 10/27/2013 9:11:31 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: editor-surveyor

Luther complained about the Book of Revelation: “to my mind it bears upon it no marks of an apostolic or prophetic character... Everyone may form his own judgment of this book; as for myself, I feel an aversion to it, and to me this is sufficient reason for rejecting it.” (Sammtliche Werke, 63, pp. 169-170,


277 posted on 10/27/2013 9:11:39 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: narses

I’m not too worried about what Luther said.

He had his good days and his bad ones.


278 posted on 10/27/2013 9:13:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: GarySpFc

Dr. Gary you may be interested in this thread.


279 posted on 10/27/2013 9:14:34 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: metmom
Not unlike the Douay-Rheims then.

the douay Rheims version of the bible is error free......mine has the Imprimatur of Bernardus Cardinalis Griffin....enough for me

280 posted on 10/27/2013 9:24:44 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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