Questions for "Bible Christians" that they can't answer - Part 2

Catholic Convert ^ | October 27, 2013 | David Palm and Steve Ray

[NYer]

There are 38 questions + a few bonus questions. I have split them into two separate posts of 20 and 18 + bonus questions. In case you missed it, here is the link to Part 1. Are you ready?

21. Who in the Church had the authority to determine which books belonged in the New Testament canon and to make this decision binding on all Christians? If nobody has this authority, then can I remove or add books to the canon on my own authority?

22. Why do Protestant scholars recognize the early Church councils at Hippo and Carthage as the first instances in which the New Testament canon was officially ratified, but ignore the fact that those same councils ratified the Old Testament canon used by the Catholic Church today but abandoned by Protestants at the Reformation?

23. Why do Protestants follow postapostolic Jewish decisions on the boundaries of the Old Testament canon, rather than the decision of the Church founded by Jesus Christ?

24. How were the bishops at Hippo and Carthage able to determine the correct canon of Scripture, in spite of the fact that they believed all the distinctively Catholic doctrines such as the apostolic succession of bishops, the sacrifice of the Mass, Christ’s Real Presence in the Eucharist, baptismal regeneration, etc?

25. If Christianity is a “book religion,” how did it flourish during the first 1500 years of Church history when the vast majority of people were illiterate?

26. How could the Apostle Thomas establish the church in India that survives to this day (and is now in communion with the Catholic Church) without leaving them with one word of New Testament Scripture?

27. If sola Scriptura is so solid and biblically based, why has there never been a full treatise written in its defense since the phrase was coined in the Reformation?

28. If Jesus intended for Christianity to be exclusively a “religion of the book,” why did He wait 1400 years before showing somebody how to build a printing press?

29. If the early Church believed in sola Scriptura, why do the creeds of the early Church always say “we believe in the Holy Catholic Church,” and not “we believe in Holy Scripture”?

30. If the Bible is as clear as Martin Luther claimed, why was he the first one to interpret it the way he did and why was he frustrated at the end of his life that “there are now as many doctrines as there are heads”?

31. The time interval between the Resurrection and the establishment of the New Testament canon in AD 382 is roughly the same as the interval between the arrival of the Mayflower in America and the present day. Therefore, since the early Christians had no defined New Testament for almost four hundred years, how did they practice sola Scriptura?

32. If the Bible is the only foundation and basis of Christian truth, why does the Bible itself say that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim. 3:15)?

33. Jesus said that the unity of Christians would be objective evidence to the world that He had been sent by God (John 17:20-23). How can the world see an invisible "unity" that exists only in the hearts of believers?

34. If the unity of Christians was meant to convince the world that Jesus was sent by God, what does the ever-increasing fragmentation of Protestantism say to the world?

35. Hebrews 13:17 says, "Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you." What is the expiration date of this verse? When did it become okay not only to disobey the Church's leaders, but to rebel against them and set up rival churches?

36. The Koran explicitly claims divine inspiration, but the New Testament books do not. How do you know that the New Testament books are nevertheless inspired, but the Koran is not?

37. How does a Protestant know for sure what God thinks about moral issues such as abortion, masturbation, contraceptives, eugenics, euthanasia, etc.?

38. What is one to believe when one Protestant says infants should be baptized (e.g., Luther and Calvin) and another says it is wrong and unbiblical (e.g., Baptists and Evangelicals)?

A Few Bonus Questions

Where does the Bible . . .

. . . say God created the world/universe out of nothing?

. . . say salvation is attainable through faith alone?

. . . tell us how we know that the revelation of Jesus Christ ended with the death of the last Apostle?

. . . provide a list of the canonical books of the Old Testament?

. . . provide a list of the canonical books of the New Testament?

. . . explain the doctrine of the Trinity, or even use the word “Trinity”?

. . . tell us the name of the “beloved disciple”?

. . . inform us of the names of the authors of the Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John?

. . . who wrote the Book of Acts?

. . . tell us the Holy Spirit is one of the three Persons of the Trinity?

. . . .tell us Jesus Christ was both fully God and fully man from the moment of conception (e.g. how do we know His Divinity wasn't infused later in His life?) and/or tells us Jesus Christ is One Person with two complete natures, human and Divine and not some other combination of the two natures (i.e., one or both being less than complete)?

. . . that the church should, or someday would be divided into competing and disagreeing denominations?

. . . that Protestants can have an invisible unity when Jesus expected a visible unity to be seen by the world (see John 17)?

. . . tell us Jesus Christ is of the same substance of Divinity as God the Father?

[smvoice]

...so where does that little thingy about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and Adam and Eve eating of its fruit, and thus bringing sin and death upon all humanity fit into your creation theory?

[Iscool]

You're appealing to the authority of Scripture to give the church its authority after rejecting the authority of Scripture in post 5.

HaHaHa...They are using the authority of the scripture to give them the authority to reject the scripture...

All the nuts ain't in the trees...

[SumProVita]

I changed NADA.

[verga]

You have been told the truth by me and nothing less. If you choose to ignore it that is on you.

[verga]

From an outsider's view, I'd say your religion is centered on some female named Mary...

Then come inside to see the truth.

[metmom]

Is the unborn baby a human being?

Is the unborn baby living?

Is the deliberate ending of a human life murder?

[SumProVita]

Are you aware that the WORD is Jesus Christ?

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

[verga]

How can you read what is CLEARLY said by God and want to change it into something it doesn’t say?

This is My Body, This is My Blood.....

Back attcha

[Iscool]

Yeah that book has been proven to be a bunch of hooey many times, by secular sources.

Hasn't been proven at all...It's claimed to be a bunch of hooey, by Catholics, of course...Just like Two Babylons...You guys claim that was proven false as well...Just more nonsense...

[smvoice]

You can believe anything you want. But Genesis 5:3 says what it says. Take it up with God if you’re not happy with it. IF Adam and Eve had had children BEFORE they sinned, then yes, your argument would have merit. But that is not what happened. Not only that, we are NOT created. We are begotten. Adam and Eve were created.

[Iscool]

I am going to steal this from one of my fellow Catholics. Iron is profitable for the human body to stay alive, does that mean it is the only source of nutrition?

Thank God He didn't trust a Catholic to write his bible...

[verga]

Is the unborn baby a human being? Is the unborn baby living? Is the deliberate ending of a human life murder?

Tell me more about this vaunted protestant unity.

[ronnietherocket3]

I am going to steal this from one of my fellow Catholics. Iron is profitable for the human body to stay alive, does that mean it is the only source of nutrition?

According John 6:52-59 all you need to eat is the flesh of Christ and all you need to drink is the blood of Christ. < sarcasm > Too bad Catholics don't eat Jesus' body and drink his blood.< /sarcasm >

[verga]

see Narses post 103

[SumProVita]

I have no *theory* of creation. I simply believe the Scriptures. I believe that when it says God created man (male and female), He created the in His image. Their sin, however, brought a corruption which affected all of us.

I believe that God sent His Son to pay the price for that sin...whereby mankind can be restored.

[smvoice]

So what you’re saying is God created ALL men and ALL women when He created Adam and Eve?

[SumProVita]

Can you give me the Scripture verses to prove your take on this?

[smvoice]

Post 134. I’ve already given you the Scripture verses to “prove” my take on this. Did you not read them?

[Vigilanteman]

I'd suggest starting with the boigraphy of William Tyndale.

[Iscool]

Between the years 390 and 406 he translated the Old Testament directly from the Hebrew, and this completed work is known today as the "Old Latin Vulgate".

This is completely untrue...A total fabrication...Jerome did not translate the Old Latin...Jerome translated FROM the Old Latin...

There's plenty of history for that, including here...

http://www.fourthcentury.com/jerome-translations-of-scripture/

Jerome actually rejected the Old Latin because it did not agree so much with the LXX...In fact, the Old Latin agrees with the manuscripts used for the KJV...

And since you are so far off on those facts, I suspect the rest of your piece here is just as corrupted...I won't bother to check it out...