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Catholic Evangelization and the Role of the “Eucharist” in This End-Time Deception
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=2706 ^ | September 25th, 2013 | Roger Oakland

Posted on 10/18/2013 11:50:16 PM PDT by jodyel

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To: narses

The irony is that if it wasn’t for Catholicism there would be no Protestantism for them to argue with! To borrow from Harper Lee’s Miss Maudie, some people are so busy reliving the Reformation that they aren’t living in the present.


81 posted on 10/19/2013 12:25:22 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: jodyel; Chainmail; narses; P-Marlowe
Catholics are not Christians...sorry to burst your bubble.

I think that's a silly statement because of Romans 10:13 - "Whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

However, you seriously misunderstand the power of communion:

1 Co 11: 27 Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28 A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. 29 For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30 That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.

1 Corinthians 10:16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?

1 Corinthians 11:27 Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord.

How can you be guilty of "sinning against the body and blood of the Lord", and how can you be guilty for "not recognizing the body of the Lord", if the Lord is not present?

There is far more power and presence in Communion/Eucharist than you are acknowledging. It is not some passé symbolic act.

82 posted on 10/19/2013 12:28:55 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

38 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the Law said to Him, “Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you.”

39 He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.


83 posted on 10/19/2013 12:50:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Campion
If all Jesus wanted to say was "believe in me," why the elaborate and highly offensive metaphor?

Good question!


 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


84 posted on 10/19/2013 12:58:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
It is either trustworthy in both or in neither.

Only TWO choices?

85 posted on 10/19/2013 12:59:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
This was the teaching and practice of the early Church, the same Church that gave us the canon the the Scriptures.

Surely not the SAME church that gave us...




Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

86 posted on 10/19/2013 1:00:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: goodwithagun
To further that concept, he/she threw down the gauntlet with the thread proclaiming such.

I'm sure glad that Roman Catholicism hasn't said such vile things ab out PROTESTants!

87 posted on 10/19/2013 1:02:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jvette
No where in any of the accounts of the Last Supper does it say that Jesus ate or drank what He gave the Apostles.

Oh?

"It is my desire to eat this meal WITH you."

Luke 22:15

88 posted on 10/19/2013 1:03:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: narses
You have the words of eternal life.

Words...

89 posted on 10/19/2013 1:04:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Iscool
Then why not take a wafer home so you can feel that way all the time???

It's like manna - worthless if you try to save iut.

You MUST return to the source to get it.

Kinda like having your own drug pusher I guess.

90 posted on 10/19/2013 1:07:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga

Or else you’ll throw a hissy fit?


91 posted on 10/19/2013 1:07:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga
Please do something (preferably permanent) about this person

Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?



92 posted on 10/19/2013 1:09:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: narses

Words...


93 posted on 10/19/2013 1:11:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: narses
What sects or denominations ARE Christian, in your world?

The world knows what Rome thinks of PROTESTants...

94 posted on 10/19/2013 1:11:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: xzins
1 Corinthians 10:16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?

The word "participation" seems to be ignored a lot...

95 posted on 10/19/2013 1:13:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jodyel

Hmmm.....

Make something and then bow down and worship it.

Seems to me that God had something to say about that once or twice.....


96 posted on 10/19/2013 1:22:06 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: ADSUM
Who wouldn’t want to meet God? and yet we can with the Eucharist. Jesus is with us, but we need to listen and accept HIS presence.

For the true believer, the true Christian, Christ dwells in the heart through faith.

He doesn't live there because we eat Him.

We don't have to go somewhere to meet Christ. Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit who swells in us.

Anyone who isn't sure they have Jesus in them, doesn't.

97 posted on 10/19/2013 1:24:15 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: don-o
But, discovering that Charles Stanley is going “emergent / mystical” - Now THERE’S something completely different.

No kidding....

You got any links?

I've just been doing some research on the emergent church and the mysticism that is creeping in.

98 posted on 10/19/2013 1:27:45 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: mlizzy

I have never seen you post here on these frequent debates on the FR RF, but posting more propaganda rather than reasoned conclusions based on objective examination of Scripture, which your article is not, accomplishes nothing except to indicate that indoctrination is behind belief in the Real Presence as defined by Rome.


99 posted on 10/19/2013 1:28:57 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Elsie

Save my FReeper handle and ping me when a Catholic claims Protestants aren’t Christians, mmm kay?


100 posted on 10/19/2013 1:29:38 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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