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Catholic Evangelization and the Role of the “Eucharist” in This End-Time Deception
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=2706 ^ | September 25th, 2013 | Roger Oakland

Posted on 10/18/2013 11:50:16 PM PDT by jodyel

For those who are not aware of the Catholic Church’s New Evangelization program, let me provide a brief overview. The Catholic Church plans to establish the kingdom of God on earth and win the world to the Catholic Jesus (i.e., the Eucharistic Christ). This will be accomplished when the world (including the separated brethren) comes under the rule and reign of Rome and this Eucharistic Jesus.

The Eucharistic Jesus is supposedly Christ’s presence that a Catholic priest summons through the power of transubstantiation, the focal point of the Mass. Many Christians believe the Christian tradition of communion is the same as the Catholic tradition of the Eucharist. But this is not so. The Eucharist (i.e., transubstantiation) is a Catholic term for communion when the bread and the wine are said to be transformed into the very body and blood of Jesus Christ. The Catholic Catechism states:

In the most blessed sacrament of the Eucharist “the body and blood, together with the soul and divinity, of our Lord Jesus Christ and, therefore, the whole Christ is truly, really, and substantially contained.”1

The host is then placed in what is called a monstrance and can then be worshiped as if worshiping Jesus Himself. The implications are tied directly to salvation itself. With the Eucharist, salvation becomes sacramental (participation in a ritual) as opposed to justification by faith in Christ alone, described in Galatians 2:16. While this mystical experience is a form of idolatry (as well as the very heart of Catholicism), there is a growing interest by evangelical Christians in this practice, particularly by the emerging church.

The Catholic Church leadership, concerned with apathy for the Eucharist within the Catholic ranks, is hoping to “rekindle the amazement”2 of the Eucharist through what is called their “New Evangelization program.”3 With a two-fold purpose–to keep present Catholics and to bring evangelicals into the Catholic Church–church leadership has a plan to re-emphasize the Eucharist as the focus of the Catholic faith. By saying “rekindle the amazement,” they mean bring out the mystical, supernatural element of the Eucharist.

All Catholics are expected to worship the host (Eucharistic Adoration of the transformed wafer), and church leadership says it is anathema (to be accursed) to reject this teaching.

While it is true that during the Reformation and Counter Reformation, many who refused to believe in transubstantiation were tortured and executed for their faith in the Gospel, time has a way of forgetting the facts of history.

In April of 2003, the pope wrote an encyclical promoting the “New Evangelization” program for the purpose of “rekindling amazement” for the Eucharist.4 Then in October of 2004, John Paul II initiated “The Year of the Eucharist” as part of his evangelistic plan to bring the world to the Eucharistic Christ. Following his death in April of 2005, Pope Benedict XVI picked up Pope John Paul’s mission immediately. He called the “faithful to intensify” devotion to the Eucharistic Jesus, and said the Eucharist is the “heart of Christian life.”5

The New Evangelization program plans to revitalize the Catholic faith by reigniting strong interest in the Eucharistic Jesus. It is not just the pope who is enthusiastic about this–cardinals, bishops, and priests all over the world are joining in to help with the mission. Something very significant is happening. Eucharistic adoration is becoming the foundation for the new evangelization of the Catholic Church.

In speaking of the pope’s view on the Eucharist, Protestant-turned Catholic Scott Hahn states:

The coming of Jesus Christ – what the Greek New Testament calls his “parousia” – is not simply some far-off event. It is his presence in the Eucharist. Fundamentalists reduce the meaning of “parousia” to Christ’s coming at the end of time; but for the first century Greek speakers the word meant “presence.” Catholic theology holds on to that original meaning.6

The presence of Christ in the Eucharist is the Second Coming Catholic style. Unfortunately, many evangelical Protestants are not even aware of this.

While Eucharistic adoration contradicts biblical Christianity, a growing number of popular evangelicals (especially those leaning toward emerging spiritualities) seem to find no offense in such a doctrine. And with the increased acceptance of mysticism and an attraction to imagery within evangelical circles, it only makes sense that many evangelical Christians find nothing wrong with the Eucharist and Eucharistic adoration. Such acceptance, however, is neutralizing former evangelical resistance to all things Catholic.

In Doug Pagitt’s book Church Re-imagined, he describes his initial attraction to rituals associated with the Eucharist:

The first day of Lent this year brought the first Ash Wednesday gathering in our church’s history and in mine…. Until this point, Ash Wednesday had not been part of my Christian faith experience. Not only had I never applied ashes to anyone’s forehead, but I had also never had them applied to mine. After this experience I wondered how I could have celebrated 19 Easters as a Christian without this tremendous experience.7

Scot McKnight, another emerging church influencer and the author of The Real Mary and The Jesus Creed, in referring to an Anglican service, McKnight speaks of the Eucharistic focus. He states:

[T]he point of an Anglican gathering on a Sunday morning is not to hear a sermon but to worship the Lord through the celebration of the Eucharist… First some scripture readings and then the sermon and then some announcements and then the Eucharist liturgy–with everyone coming forward to kneel and participate—publicly–in the body and blood.8

McKnight says that “the Eucharist profoundly enables the grace of God to be received with all its glories and blessings.”9 No doubt, McKnight will have an impact on those in the emerging church movement, and his views on the Eucharist will rub off. He has been a popular speaker at many events including Willow Creek’s Small Group Conference and the National Pastors Convention. Both of these events have reached the “postmodern” generation.

The late Robert Webber was very influential in closing the gap between Eucharistic adoration and the evangelical church. A document he authored called “A Call to an Ancient Evangelical Future” states: “We call for a renewed consideration of how God ministers to us in … Eucharist.”10 Two well-known evangelical publishers, Baker Books and InterVarsity Press (both of which now publish emerging church authors) sponsored the document as did Christianity Today. The AEF, which the document is called, is endorsed by various emerging church leaders such as Brian McLaren who calls it “a preaching resource” that “emphasize[s] the importance … of Advent or Lent.”11

Participants of the AEF include numerous Christian seminaries like Bethel Seminary in Minnesota, Dallas Theological Seminary, and pastors from many different denominations including Nazarene, Wesleyan, Mennonite, Reformed, and Baptist.

To those who traditionally haven’t had much ritual in their lives (i.e., Protestants), the ambience of the Mass would have great appeal because of its religious novelty – thus the interest in the Eucharist by those who promote contemplative spirituality. And for many Catholics, the Mass (where the Eucharist is presented), in, and of itself, is not a mystical experience. However if the contemplative dimension is added, one actually can enter the mystical realm. On the surface, this phenomenon seems complex, but once we begin to understand mysticism, it all makes sense. Within the contemplative prayer realm, the meditator is actually getting in touch with a spiritual power or force. Combining the tradition of the Eucharist, which appeals to many raised in the Catholic Church, with the relatively recent explosion of contemplative practice, the Catholic Church sees this as a way to recover its robust state of previous decades.

Right now, some may be asking, is the physical presence of Jesus held inside the elements of the Eucharist? Or as some evangelicals and emergents have suggested, is there a special presence and power in the Eucharist? The answer to both is a resounding no! Jesus Christ indwells the heart of every person who is born again and who belongs to Him by faith through grace. He promises never to leave or forsake us, meaning that His presence is in our lives at all times. We are not required to partake in a ritual to experience His presence, nor is He confined in benign, lifeless wafers and wine (or juice). As Jesus said:

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit [spiritual as opposed to physical], and they are life. (John 6:63, emphasis added)

Jesus said this in response to his disciples’ confusion over His statement “my flesh is meat indeed” (vs. 55). Paul adds further clarity in writing to the Romans that all we need to do is call upon the true Jesus, and He is there:

But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (Romans 10:8-13)

At this point, we see the great chasm that separates Catholicism from the light of the Gospel – a light the reformers saw, for which many of them gave their lives. They recognized that participation in the sacraments is not what saves people.

The Catholic’s New Evangelization is no small issue. Darkness has fallen over the Christian church the same way an avalanche sweeps down a mountain. Every day new unsuspecting victims are being swept away and buried. And the role the emerging church plays in bringing this about is something that should alarm every discerning Christian.

To read more about the emerging church, read Roger Oakland’s expose, Faith Undone.

Related:

WUERL: A new morning with Pope Francis

Notes: 1. Catechism of the Catholic Church, para. 1374, page 383.6 2. H. J. Schroeder, The Canons and Decrees of The Council of Trent (Rockford, IL: Tan Books and Publishers, 1978), page 79, Canon 1. 3. Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, “The New Evangelization” (http://www.ewtn.com/new_evangelization/Ratzinger.htm). 4. Zenit: The World Seen From Rome, “Why the Pope Would Write an Encyclical on the Eucharist: To Rekindle Amazement,” cited April 17, 2003, http://www.zenit.org. 5. “Pope Benedict calls on faithful to intensify devotion to Eucharistic Jesus,” http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=3686. 6. Interview with Scott Hahn, “Eucharist in the Pontificate of Benedict XVI” (Pontifications, June 12, 2005, http://web.archive.org/web/20070209234229/http://catholica.pontifications.net/?p=940). 7. Doug Pagitt, Church Re-Imagined, p. 103. 8. Scot McKnight, “An Anglican Service” (Jesus Creed blog, http://www.jesuscreed.org/?p=2258 – link no longer online). 9. Scot McKnight, Turning to Jesus, (Louisville, KY: Westminister John Knox Press, 2002 edition), p. 7. 10. Robert Webber, “A Call to an Ancient Evangelical Future” (Online at: http://www.aefcall.org/read.html. 11. Brian McLaren, “The AEF Document as a Preaching Resource” (From the AEF Call website: http://www.aefcall.org/documents/TheAEFDocumentasaPreachingResource_000.doc).


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To: jodyel; alphadog; infool7; Heart-Rest; HoosierDammit; red irish; fastrock; NorthernCrunchyCon; ...
In the Religion forum, on a thread titled Catholic Evangelization and the Role of the “Eucharist” in This End-Time Deception, jodyel wrote:
So I will quote him: Christ lives in no Catholic church, my friend, but until you are born again you will never know or understand that.
And yet I have been "born again" and am very Catholic, which is the Universal Church Our Lord Jesus Christ gave us. That you deny Him and judge me is quite telling. And quite sad.
141 posted on 10/19/2013 3:06:49 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks Jim.


142 posted on 10/19/2013 3:07:28 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: narses

I am not judging you...just speaking truth.

Roman Catholicism teaches “a form of godliness, but denies its power.”

http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-r011.html


143 posted on 10/19/2013 3:13:11 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: verga; Religion Moderator; Jim Robinson

I will not allow you to draw me into this, verga.

Say what you will. And I will continue to ignore you.

God bless you,
jodyel


144 posted on 10/19/2013 3:14:50 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: xzins

I am sorry, but that is not what is meant by those words....and until the Spirit opens your spirit you will continue to believe that.

Unless the Spirit draws you and indwells you and leads you to truth.


145 posted on 10/19/2013 3:17:36 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: WVKayaker

I’ve always said I will not go running to a mod no matter if they attack me personally or not.

We know who is really behind the attack and it is not human.

Thanks for the support, wv!


146 posted on 10/19/2013 3:18:57 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: xzins; jodyel

>> “You do not understand the words of the bible. Read them as they are written. That is what we biblical Christians are supposed to be doing.” <<

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Wow, I hope you’re joking!

That is definitely not what Christians are supposed to be doing, if they wish to follow his words. In John 6:63 he makes it plain that he was not talking about physically eating anything, and nothing in chapter 6 had anything to do with the remembrance Yeshua invoked at his last supper.

At the last supper he recited the very same blessing that the Melek Zadek spoke with Abraham: “Blessed are thou Yehova Elohim, King of creation, who brings forth Bread on the Earth.”

Eucharist mumbo-jumbo is sending people to damnation by allowing them to believe that thereby, they can earn salvation.

Yes Jodyel, the wafer has the power to send you to the lake that burns.


147 posted on 10/19/2013 3:19:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: jodyel

>> “We know who is really behind the attack and it is not human.” <<

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AMEN!


148 posted on 10/19/2013 3:20:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: jodyel; narses; Hoodat

Uh, I thought I was quoting you, jodyel, in that I had highlighted your own comment, but I was basically agreeing with it, in that I was not disagreeing with it.

The spirit of the Lord dwells not in temples made with hands.

149 posted on 10/19/2013 3:21:58 PM PDT by BlueDragon (For with stammering lips and another tongue He will speak to this people...)
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To: jodyel

“Roman Catholicism teaches “a form of godliness, but denies its power.”

ROTFLMAO!

You are not “just speaking truth.”

You are affirmatively judging me as not being a Christian because I am a Catholic.

Linking to a ding-dong like Taylor and his luddite weirdness helps your arguments not even a little bit. Are you one of his cultists?


150 posted on 10/19/2013 3:25:20 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: jodyel
Christ lives in no Catholic church, my friend, but until you are born again you will never know or understand that. Better?

So who made you arbiter of where Christ lives? btw, I think you may be reading more into the term 'born again' than Christ actually taught. He said nothing about one having to be born again to determine whether Christ lives in a Catholic church or not.

151 posted on 10/19/2013 3:26:17 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: jodyel
Catholics are not Christians


152 posted on 10/19/2013 3:26:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: xzins; alphadog; infool7; Heart-Rest; HoosierDammit; red irish; fastrock; NorthernCrunchyCon; ...

In the Religion forum, on a thread titled Catholic Evangelization and the Role of the “Eucharist” in This End-Time Deception, xzins (very correctly!) wrote:

You do not understand the words of the bible. Read them as they are written. That is what we biblical Christians are supposed to be doing.

“without recognizing the body of the Lord” IS Scripture and it IS about that bread. If YOU don’t eat His flesh and drink His blood you have no life in you.

John 6:53 Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

1 Co 11:29 For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.


153 posted on 10/19/2013 3:26:45 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: verga; jodyel; Jim Robinson; Religion Moderator

Please be truthful verga; I’ve read the posts and she didn’t call you anything.

Why do catholics always want FReepers banned?


154 posted on 10/19/2013 3:27:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: jodyel

155 posted on 10/19/2013 3:27:24 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: Jim Robinson; Religion Moderator

You misunderstand me, Jim.

I am not trying to drive anyone away. I wish to see souls saved and brought to the knowledge of the true Christ, not the one of Catholicism.

I understand you are Catholic so see why you take exception to what I am saying. However, I do not subscribe to the ecumenical, get along philosophy espoused by Catholicism.

I am a born-again, Spirit-filled Christian who holds to the biblical truth of salvation. If you feel this is not welcome here, I will leave. However, if you think that all views should be heard even if they are directly opposed to yours and other Catholics here, then I will stay.

As I have said all along, I am not against Catholics nor have I pinged any to this thread. But it is telling that some have seen fit to say that I have in an effort to get rid of me. I do not play that game and welcome them to say what they will to me. It is not human what we are battling here, but does take the Spirit to see that.

Ephesians 6:12
King James Version (KJV)

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

I am anti-Catholicism, not anti-Catholic.

Thanks,
jodyel


156 posted on 10/19/2013 3:28:02 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: WVKayaker

Thanks for your support, wv!

Acts 7:54-60
New International Version (NIV)
The Stoning of Stephen

54 When the members of the Sanhedrin heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him. 55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”

57 At this they covered their ears and, yelling at the top of their voices, they all rushed at him, 58 dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. Meanwhile, the witnesses laid their coats at the feet of a young man named Saul.

59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” When he had said this, he fell asleep.


157 posted on 10/19/2013 3:29:25 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: jodyel

158 posted on 10/19/2013 3:30:13 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: jodyel; editor-surveyor
until the Spirit opens your spirit you will continue to believe that.

I believe the words of the bible. I believe the words of Jesus.

John 6:63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.

John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."

"Spirit" is not some neat little semantic dodge meaning "symbolic" or "allegorical". God is Spirit. That means Spirit is REAL.

The Bible says "29 For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30 That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep".

That means there is a serious reality going on with that bread and cup and it involves recognizing the Lord. Let God be true and every man a liar.

159 posted on 10/19/2013 3:30:36 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: narses

Thanks, as always, narses.


160 posted on 10/19/2013 3:32:56 PM PDT by jodyel
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