Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: daniel1212
Judas was elected by the omniscient Lord who knowingly choose him as a man who would be possessed by the devil to betray Christ in fulfillment of prophecy.

And so, evil men are selected by the Holy Spirit as instruments of God's just chastisement. What is your point?

In contrast, popes are elected as successors to Peter and to build the church

And Jesus himself warned that bad ones would be selected. (Lk 12:41-48). Again, what's your point?

19 posted on 10/15/2013 12:18:34 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies ]


To: Campion; daniel1212
And so, evil men are selected by the Holy Spirit as instruments of God's just chastisement. What is your point?

So just who are they chastising?

24 posted on 10/15/2013 1:14:50 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies ]

To: Campion

“And Jesus himself warned that bad ones would be selected. (Lk 12:41-48). Again, what’s your point?”


How are you finding “There will be heretic Popes selected who will rule over the church of God” out of those passages? It’s not there. Do you have the authority to imagine that interpretation? If not, who dreamed up that fiction and who are they within the RCC?


36 posted on 10/15/2013 7:12:39 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (If anyone tells you it's a cookbook, don't believe them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies ]

To: Campion
And so, evil men are selected by the Holy Spirit as instruments of God's just chastisement. What is your point?

And Jesus himself warned that bad ones would be selected. (Lk 12:41-48). Again, what's your point?

You are either playing dumb or fail to see the point. They are not qualified to be even pastors, and while allowed by God for His purposes, that does not validate men knowingly electing manifestly immoral and impenitent men )or heretics) as succeeding Peter, but ends up invalidating them both and validating dissent from such presumption, (though till replaced conditional obedience is enjoined). Such dissent is not disallowed on the basis that the laymen has "no authority to declare either heresy or heretic," as was stated. No authority is autocratic, but is subject to Scripture as supreme.

Thus the church began in dissent from those who sat in the seat of Moses and would not be reformed, being replaced by those who had no authority to do so, according to them. But who established their claims upon Scriptural substantiation in word and in power. "For every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted." (Luke 18:14)

37 posted on 10/15/2013 7:54:53 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson