Fairytale Fever

Harvesting the Fruit of Vatican II ^ | 10/04/13 | Louie Verrecchio

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

“Why change the topic like that?”

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That’s what Papists do. There is no other way.

[ebb tide]

Scripture says, “Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.” John 20:23.

Who has forgiven your sins?

We Catholics are so fortunate to have the Sacrament of Confession available to us.

[ebb tide]

... while RCs consider you to be a schismatic.

Agreed. But I proselytize to both protestants and weak Catholics, muslims, Jews, etc. Even though my current pope says my efforts are "solemn nonsense", I'll pick up the Cross he has dropped.

[terycarl]

<when you visit a funeral home for one of your friends, family...don't you say a prayer in their remembrance No. It's too late then for me to have any impact on their salvation.

WOW that's cold!!!

[terycarl]

you now canceling your previous opinion to say that it's NOT the Catholic Church which is infallible and cannot err on matters of faith and morals but only the "Pope" when he speaks "ex cathedra"???

you don't seem to get it....when an official teaching comes from the Catholic Church, it is from the Pope....noone else is qualified to issue such a statement....therefore the Pope/Catholic church are infallible when a decision comes forth....because the Pope said it in the name of the Catholic Church.....one and the same when it comes to infallibility.

[terycarl]

So, Was Mary’s blood shed? According to some Catholics.....

please give an example of that....Mary's blood was never shed for any reason....please give an example or two

[terycarl]

Certainly the Pope has erred on the matters of faith and morals of the Priests and Bishops.

only if he declared that it was the official policy of the Catholic Church that their behavior was now acceptable by the church....He didn't

[terycarl]

Or heretics, since the Pope, speaking ex cathedra, has assented to the modern view...

wrong

[terycarl]

My view was universally held by all Catholics until 1962 - 1965. Those Catholics today, who hold otherwise, are modernists.

whoa, I missed something somewhere....which teachings changed in the 62-65 era????

[metmom]

You can follow the discussion from this post on.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3025958/posts?page=1339#1339

[terycarl]

I’m thinking they haven’t seen half of what is to come from the popes yet that will stun them. Hopefully they will be stunned enough to “come out of her”.

why would anyone leave the Church when Christ promised, personally, that He would protect her from any error in matters of faith and morals??? lOOKING FOR A BETTER PROMISE???

[ebb tide]

EENS

[metmom]

why would anyone leave the Church when Christ promised, personally, that He would protect her from any error in matters of faith and morals???

Quote where Jesus promised that, please. Chapter and verse.

[terycarl]

Agreed. But I proselytize to both protestants and weak Catholics, muslims, Jews, etc. Even though my current pope says my efforts are "solemn nonsense", I'll pick up the Cross he has dropped.

good luck Mr. Luther, everything will work out just fine

[ebb tide]

No pope has spoken ex cathedra on a matter of faith and morals to the Universal (Catholic) Church since prior to the Second Vatican Council. In other words, no pope has spoken infallibly in that time frame. So drop your strawman; it’s tiresome.

[terycarl]

why would anyone leave the Church when Christ promised, personally, that He would protect her from any error in matters of faith and morals??? Quote where Jesus promised that, please. Chapter and verse.

I don't have time to do that right now, but it says somethibne like whatsoever you shall bind on Earth shall be bound in Heaven and whatsoever you shall loose on Earth shall be loosed in Heaven......do you suppose that He would allow erroneous decisions made on Earth to be bound in Heaven????

[ebb tide]

Ahh. I see you’re one of those weak Catholics. I’ll include you in my rosary tonight.

[Revolting cat!]

Dude, they’re never drop their strawmen. Their house of cards is built of strawmen. If they dropped their strawmen, their silly heresy would have to be thrown under the bus!

[Alex Murphy]

I’ve seen several of the Catholics on this site expressing doubts about this pope. I’m thinking they haven’t seen half of what is to come from the popes yet that will stun them. Hopefully they will be stunned enough to “come out of her”.

We're watching the birth of new sedevacantist sects as we speak! And over a handful of quotes! Oh, but don't worry - no matter what position the RadTrads arrive at, it's safe to predict that they'll still say the Reformers' reactions were unjustified in response to what those popes were guilty of.

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How the Renaissance Papacy contributed to the Reformation
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Top Ten Moments of the Reformation
The man who dared to laugh at the Pope ["Out of the Storm: The Life and Legacy of Martin Luther"]
THE CADAVER SYNOD: STRANGEST TRIAL IN HISTORY

[boatbums]

you don't seem to get it....when an official teaching comes from the Catholic Church, it is from the Pope....noone else is qualified to issue such a statement....therefore the Pope/Catholic church are infallible when a decision comes forth....because the Pope said it in the name of the Catholic Church.....one and the same when it comes to infallibility.

Oh, I get it alright! It get it that you have gone back and forth on this issue on two different threads and it seems you don't even realize how you keep contradicting yourself. If the blinders can be grabbed off perhaps it might help to see it better.