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To: CynicalBear
So you do believe in a rapture but not at the beginning of the tribulation. Which means either sometime mid trib or post trib. Do I have that right?

I am mid-trib - I think there will be martyrdom, and I think that the 'two sticks' will be made one. I think that the two witnesses are a type of Ephraim and Judah, Christians and Jews... and I think that they are raised from the dead and told to 'Come up here', just as the last trumpet (of the seven) begins to sound, is the precise moment of the rapture... I think the Bride is in heaven at the wedding feast while the bowls and vials are poured out, and after the feast, Yeshua, with the bride in tow, returns to earth to establish His Kingdom.

I think that the Fall Feasts will happen in real time, and precisely to the minute (no symbolic timing), just as the spring feasts happened in real time. Hence, while you are looking for years, I am looking for days.

804 posted on 10/16/2013 4:11:48 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
There is so much error there I don’t know where to start but I will pick a couple.

>>I think that the two witnesses are a type of Ephraim and Judah, Christians and Jews...<<

So the anti Christ kills both a type of Ephraim and Judah? And that they lay in the streets for three days while everyone celebrates their deaths and then they are raised?

Revelation 11: 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

You don’t see the number of problems you have with the above passage?

809 posted on 10/16/2013 4:31:32 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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