[roamer_1]

If you could just sit back and listen you yourself like we do. You post a passage that you claim tells us that only Christians and those who follow the torah will know when Christ returns.

No, I didn't say that.

You also told us that there is no rapture but that all will be taken up at the final return of Christ.

I didn't say that either.

Yet we all have been told when that final return will be and even those who don’t follow torah or even believe in Jesus will know when Christ’s final return is. It’s exactly 3 ½ years to the day after the anti Christ set’s himself up in the temple. People who deny the truth of the rapture have some serious problems with what scripture says let alone the torah.

I never denied the rapture. I am a staunch defender thereof. What I denied is pre-trib.

You may be convicted but it’s obvious that all of scripture has clearly not yet been revealed to you.

Why is that? Because I don't see what you do? Careful now... With history as our guide, the truth usually comes calling from folks that are outside of the norm. Just sayin. 'Few will find it'.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “No, I didn’t say that.” <<

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Been there, done that!

When they can’t refute what you did say, they simply prop up something in its place that is created to be defeated.

Be content in your victory; lurkers are not stupid.

[CynicalBear]

>>I never denied the rapture. I am a staunch defender thereof. What I denied is pre-trib.<<

So you do believe in a rapture but not at the beginning of the tribulation. Which means either sometime mid trib or post trib. Do I have that right?