[smvoice]

I think the only to get to the bottom of our differences is to start at the beginning, to make sure we're on the same page there. And move forward with it. If we can't begin on the same page, then all we're going to do is argue Scripture back and forth, all of it true, but not all of it for all people at the same time.

Compare Luke 1:70 and Acts 3:21, 24 WITH Rom. 16:25, Ephesians 3:9 and Col. 1:25.

Are they speaking of the same things? Or are they different?

[WVKayaker]

I think the only to get to the bottom of our differences is to start at the beginning, to make sure we're on the same page there.

Amen and Amen!

Ephesians 3: ... 14 For this reason I kneel before the Father, 15 from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name. 16 I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, 18 may have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, 19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.

20 Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, 21 to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “Are they speaking of the same things? Or are they different?” <<

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Speaking of the salvation of the seed of Abraham in each and every case.

The “mystery” of Abraham’s seed in the gentile world would never have been understood before the power of the Holy
Spirit could be released.

The Gentile world had been the enemy of Yehova’s plan; he had to work through the people that would bring the seed to the world.

[roamer_1]

Compare Luke 1:70 and Acts 3:21, 24 WITH Rom. 16:25, Ephesians 3:9 and Col. 1:25. Are they speaking of the same things? Or are they different?

I don't see them as mutually exclusive - I think you see something novel being revealed... I do not. The Spirit of prophecy IS the testimony of Yeshua the Messiah. That no one understood the prophets is evident (to include the prophets themselves) - But the plan is there, lest the Messiah could not be proven in the Tanakh.