[terycarl]

Men engaged in gross immorality *infallible* in faith and morals? That doesn't work either. If they can't even keep their own lives in order, they are in no position to preach at others about how THEY should be living.

again you can't separate the acts of individuals VS the teachings of the church..your minister doesn't recommend ways that YOU should be living??? Catholics, even priests, are sinners, but when the PPope speaks, with authority, he is infallible....point out 1 time in history (we're 2,013 yewars old you know) where the Pope has erred...........just 1

[Iscool]

point out 1 time in history (we're 2,013 yewars old you know) where the Pope has erred...........just 1

Which pope was it that claimed Mary was sinless...We can start there...