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To: roamer_1
Hey! The Bible doesn't say it isn't true - so it COULD be true

Indeed, as it is true that actual evidence from Scripture is not needed for RC doctrine, only that it does not contradict Scripture, but which Rome is the autocratic judge of. Meanwhile RCs have much liberty to compel Scripture to support Rome, following her presumption.

For as with the Eucharist (and bind and loosing), in which" The priest speaks and lo! Christ, the eternal and omnipotent God, bows His head in humble obedience to the priest's command. (John A, O'Brien, >I>The Faith of Millions, Our Sunday Visitor (1938), p. 235; has Nihil obstat & Imprimitur) , so what Rome autocratically declares is truth must indeed be Truth, not because of Scriptural substantiation, by which the church established its claims.

1,029 posted on 10/05/2013 10:16:12 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
For as with the Eucharist (and bind and loosing), in which" The priest speaks and lo! Christ, the eternal and omnipotent God, bows His head in humble obedience to the priest's command. (John A, O'Brien, >I>The Faith of Millions, Our Sunday Visitor (1938), p. 235; has Nihil obstat & Imprimitur) , so what Rome autocratically declares is truth must indeed be Truth, not because of Scriptural substantiation, by which the church established its claims.

God subservient to man.

Catholicism in a nutshell.

1,041 posted on 10/05/2013 10:51:15 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: daniel1212
[roamer_1:] Hey! The Bible doesn't say it isn't true - so it COULD be true

Indeed, as it is true that actual evidence from Scripture is not needed for RC doctrine, only that it does not contradict Scripture, but which Rome is the autocratic judge of. Meanwhile RCs have much liberty to compel Scripture to support Rome, following her presumption.

I know it isn't your main thrust, but the parallels to Temple era Pharisaical Judaism are an astonishment - and not only on the subjects that you have defined herein. It brings Isaiah 28 to mind.

Theirs is the very same spirit that allows penumbras in our Constitution (since their method allows anything that is not explicit, even if they eventually destroy the explicit by the sheer weight of their additions). It is the spirit and definition of iniquity - Lawlessness.

For as with the Eucharist (and bind and loosing), in which "The priest speaks and lo! Christ, the eternal and omnipotent God, bows His head in humble obedience to the priest's command." (John A, O'Brien, The Faith of Millions, Our Sunday Visitor (1938), p. 235; has Nihil obstat & Imprimitur) , so what Rome autocratically declares is truth must indeed be Truth, not because of Scriptural substantiation, by which the church established its claims.

The irony of it does not escape me - Though it seems to be a matter of logic wholly lost upon our Romanist FRiends (and Mormons too, for that matter). One cannot claim an authority higher than the authority upon which one's establishment is claimed (or plainly, where one's evidences lie), as one will inherently damage destroy the very authority one claims to have.

Thank you for your reply - I was beginning to think no one got the message - and as to the mythical, magical, most highly sainted 'Butcher of God', as with all mythical saints, relics are available upon request (for a nominal fee, of course). :P

1,069 posted on 10/05/2013 3:42:18 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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