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To: metmom
If someone doesn't exist in flesh, they don't exist. Your comment makes no sense.

Wrong. The flesh has a time expiration date. It is the soul/spirit intellect that gets placed into the flesh vessel at conception to take this flesh journey without any memory of what took place before (Ecclesiastes). And that soul/spirit intellect that existed and still exists and will not expire or live eternally until judgment day.

That which is born of the flesh is flesh. We don't take a flesh journey because the flesh profits nothing. It's about becoming alive again spiritually.

Yet the Adam was not living until the breath of life, which means soul was breathed into his nostrils.

When Adam sinned, he died spiritually. Now we need to be born again to see the kingdom. It's not going to happen in the flesh. Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.

When the Adam sinned his flesh got an expiration date. His soul/spirit intellect is still alive awaiting judgment day. And who knows if when Christ went to those spirits held back to the days of Noah, if the Adam repented.

The book of Ecclesiastes describes the flesh body and the spirit body. Once the flesh dies the soul/spirit intellect returns to the Maker that sent it.

But neither the devil nor those fallen angels will have the opportunity to make this flesh journey. They have already been judged to death. Christ did not teach a new thing.

51 posted on 09/20/2013 12:56:13 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts; Elsie; jodyel; Greetings_Puny_Humans; metmom
The Adam??? ...And that soul/spirit intellect that existed and still exists and will not expire or live eternally until judgment day...

Your posts are incomprehensible and sound great, but display a deviant perception of what is commonly known. God has always existed. This idea that all of us existed before conception sounds familiar. Certainly God transcends time and space, but He established a natural order to the Earth. That He foreknows us is not a clear indication of pre-existence. It is only a demonstration of God's Omniscience.

That familiar demon is from Mormon theology!* They expand it into personal godhood!** They make about as much sense as you...

2 Corinthians 5: 16 So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here! ...

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* ...Mormons have a unique perspective on the nature of God, the origin of man, and the purpose of life. For instance, Mormons believe in a pre-mortal existence where people were literal spirit children of God, and that God presented a plan that would allow his children to progress and become more like him. The plan involved the spirits receiving bodies on earth and going through trials in order to learn, progress, and receive a "fulness of joy". The most important part of the plan involved Jesus, the eldest of God's children, coming to earth as the literal Son of God, to conquer sin and death so that God's other children could return. ... -wiki-

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** Mormons believe that we are the children of Heavenly Parents, that our spirits lived with our Heavenly Parents before our mortal lives, and that we came to earth on the plan that we should gain experience through mortality and prepare to return to our Heavenly Parents. Like traditional Christians, Mormons believe that salvation from sin through Jesus Christ is what makes this return possible, but the kind of eternal experience the soul gets to share in and enjoy depends on his or her preparation. And it is a Mormon teaching that souls continue to grow, progress, and experience throughout the eternities, and that part of that expansive experience is to become like our Heavenly Parents. -AskMormonGirl

52 posted on 09/20/2013 1:24:18 AM PDT by WVKayaker ("The only place that the left hasn't placed the blame is on their agenda..." -Sarah Palin)
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