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To: MHGinTN

Yes, in the anthropology of man, I have studied the perspective that we have a human spirit prior to being born again, but 1Cor Chap 2 tends to teach another perspective.

1Co 2:11-16
(11) For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
(12) Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
(13) Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
(14) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
(15) But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
(16) For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

..”.neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”

This implies prior to being reborn we do not have the faculties to spiritually discern the spiritual domain.

Where the spiritual domain influences the soul or the body, we may perceive things of rationale or the bodily senses, and we might even quickly deduce or infer the existence of something supernatural, but that is a different perception than faith.

Read Chapter 2 of 1stCor, then confess your sins and make sure you are in fellowship with God by 1st John 1:9, then reread afresh Chapter 2 of 1st Corinthians, but this time allow God to spiritually teach His Word to you as you think the words.

People confuse the joy in the heart of a believer manifest in his appearance with simple bliss or naivety, but while in fellowship with God through faith in Christ these manifestations may frequently appear to the natural man of somebody spiritually discerning with the mind of Christ.


147 posted on 09/21/2013 10:23:56 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
I'm sorry that you projected such a false premise upon what I wrote to you. I have not in any way asserted that humans have a human spirit prior to being born. That is one of the heresies at the heart of Mormonism, a blasphemous religion to which I do not hold.

Would you like to try again, and address what I did offer? There is much you could seek to harangue, since I also hold to the notion that humankind without a spirit existed around Eden when God made Adam from the dust of the ground and vbreathed into him the breath of God-life, which Adam extinguished when he sinned, willfully disobeying God. The spirit remained, but it was in astate of deadness, a state which Jesus addresses on more than one occasion.

148 posted on 09/21/2013 11:01:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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